An novice's question about the Round the World Ticket
#1
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An novice's question about the Round the World Ticket
Hi,
I'm a student from India and I have a few months before I start working.
The wanderlust has been tugging at me for a few years now and I decided to give in and go on a Round the world trip(with the not-so-much money I saved while studying).
I have a few questions before buying a RTWT:
1. Can I use frequen flyer miles earned by someone else? It it transferable?
2. All the online RTWT planners I saw forced me to travel only by air all the time. Is it possible that I can choose air travel only for some instances?
Here is my probable itinerary...
India->Dubai->Egypt->Turkey->Greece->Romania->Hungary->Austria->Switzerland->England->Brazil->Parguay->Argentina->Peru->Colombia->New Zealand->Australia->Malaysia->India
Any tips/tricks for the trip are also welcome
I don't know if this is the right place to post this...but I hope somebody is able to help
Cheers,
Gandalf
I'm a student from India and I have a few months before I start working.
The wanderlust has been tugging at me for a few years now and I decided to give in and go on a Round the world trip(with the not-so-much money I saved while studying).
I have a few questions before buying a RTWT:
1. Can I use frequen flyer miles earned by someone else? It it transferable?
2. All the online RTWT planners I saw forced me to travel only by air all the time. Is it possible that I can choose air travel only for some instances?
Here is my probable itinerary...
India->Dubai->Egypt->Turkey->Greece->Romania->Hungary->Austria->Switzerland->England->Brazil->Parguay->Argentina->Peru->Colombia->New Zealand->Australia->Malaysia->India
Any tips/tricks for the trip are also welcome

I don't know if this is the right place to post this...but I hope somebody is able to help

Cheers,
Gandalf
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Welcome to Flyer Talk gandalf7 
FF miles are credited to the flyer only. There are some programs that allow pooling through a household account, and some programs allow accounts to redeem awards for other people.
You can book surface segments by simply not selecting a flight for the relevant segment. Note these are still included in the segment count (max 16).
PS you have too many stops to include them all on a single ticket.

FF miles are credited to the flyer only. There are some programs that allow pooling through a household account, and some programs allow accounts to redeem awards for other people.
You can book surface segments by simply not selecting a flight for the relevant segment. Note these are still included in the segment count (max 16).
PS you have too many stops to include them all on a single ticket.
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Hi Kiwi Flyer! Thank you 
I was hoping I could use up my relative's FF miles, now have to think of something else
I didn't understand what you meant by "You can book surface segments by simply not selecting a flight for the relevant segment. Note these are still included in the segment count"
ok, I see that I have more than 16 stops...but I intend to cover some of them via road/rail(For example, East Europe). You mean to say that it is a cost advantage to hit only 16 airports or less?

I was hoping I could use up my relative's FF miles, now have to think of something else

I didn't understand what you meant by "You can book surface segments by simply not selecting a flight for the relevant segment. Note these are still included in the segment count"
ok, I see that I have more than 16 stops...but I intend to cover some of them via road/rail(For example, East Europe). You mean to say that it is a cost advantage to hit only 16 airports or less?
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I'm a student myself and I recommend you figure out your finances before planning this trip. You have to think of the hotel/motel/hostel and food cost. If you're like me and read a lot of Trip Reports on FT then don't even think of staying at the Park Hyatt Buenos Aires for example unless you come from a wealthy family or have a lot of Hyatt points to splurge on. Just my two cents on this. But good luck if you figure out the finances!
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When you are flying AAA-PRG and WAW-BBB, this will count as three segments although you only took two flights.
The same is true if you are flying AAA-PRG and then FCO-BBB and you are driving from Prague to Warsaw and then on to Vienna, Zurich and finally Rome. There will be only one surface sector (between PRG and FCO), no matter where and how you spent your time in between.
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2. All the online RTWT planners I saw forced me to travel only by air all the time. Is it possible that I can choose air travel only for some instances?
Here is my probable itinerary...
India->Dubai->Egypt->Turkey->Greece->Romania->Hungary->Austria->Switzerland->England->Brazil->Parguay->Argentina->Peru->Colombia->New Zealand->Australia->Malaysia->India
Any tips/tricks for the trip are also welcome
Here is my probable itinerary...
India->Dubai->Egypt->Turkey->Greece->Romania->Hungary->Austria->Switzerland->England->Brazil->Parguay->Argentina->Peru->Colombia->New Zealand->Australia->Malaysia->India
Any tips/tricks for the trip are also welcome

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To answer your initial question, your relative (the one with the mileage -
) can request a ticket in your name. You should warn them that they'll probably spend quite a bit of time (hours) on the phone with their FF program to set everything up.
Specifically, for UA, the max numbers are 16 segments, 5 stopovers, and 36,000 miles. At least that was the situation a year ago when I booked a similar trip for a relative.
As was noted previously, your trip is too ambitious, you are way over any likely stopover limit your FF plan has.
) can request a ticket in your name. You should warn them that they'll probably spend quite a bit of time (hours) on the phone with their FF program to set everything up.As was noted previously, your trip is too ambitious, you are way over any likely stopover limit your FF plan has.
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I agree it is probably a bit ambitious. But a quick suggestion is doable on a paid ticket - I have minimised South America stops, and the ATH-ZRH sector should be surfaced. I have not checked that *A atually operates all segments (DEL-DXB in particluar could be an issue).
This comes to 13 segments and just over 32,000 miles:
del-dxb-cai-ist-ath-zrh-lhr-lis-gru-sfo-akl-syd-sin-del.
this leaves room for additional 3 segments (to cover for inoperable city pairs and may an added city).
This comes to 13 segments and just over 32,000 miles:
del-dxb-cai-ist-ath-zrh-lhr-lis-gru-sfo-akl-syd-sin-del.
this leaves room for additional 3 segments (to cover for inoperable city pairs and may an added city).
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#12
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I'm back! :)
Hi,
Thank you so much for all your responses.
After much deliberation, I pruned my itinerary to the following destinations.
Bangalore - Dubai - Cairo - Athens - Istanbul - Bucharest - Budapest - Vienna - Salzburg - Zurich - Paris - London - Bangalore
It was a bit of a let down
but I guess it makes sense monetarily. Also I will be able to spend more time at each destination! 
Will I have any problems with the above itinerary? I mean...since I would be coming back from London, and crossing over between Asia<-> Europe twice? I was not able to plan this trip on the Star Alliance website because of this issue.
any other suggestions/comments most welcome!
Thank you so much for all your responses.
After much deliberation, I pruned my itinerary to the following destinations.
Bangalore - Dubai - Cairo - Athens - Istanbul - Bucharest - Budapest - Vienna - Salzburg - Zurich - Paris - London - Bangalore
It was a bit of a let down
but I guess it makes sense monetarily. Also I will be able to spend more time at each destination! 
Will I have any problems with the above itinerary? I mean...since I would be coming back from London, and crossing over between Asia<-> Europe twice? I was not able to plan this trip on the Star Alliance website because of this issue.
any other suggestions/comments most welcome!
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You can't book this itin on the *A website because it is not a RTW but a RT India-London with (too many) stopovers. Much of your travel can be done better (or only) by train or with LCC's within Europe. You might want to have a look at the Europe Airpass but I doubt it really fits into your plans.
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Looks like the best way to do this: Buy a regular ticket (open jaw) to/from two points in europe. If you use Emirates you can add a stop in Dubai on the way there/back. You could make a sidetrip to CAI from there.
Then use trains (look at eurorail passes) or LCCs to get around in europe.
On many of your city pairs the train is actually faster than flying and you save the expenses to/from the airport. Budapest-Vienna for example is only around 3 hours with at least one train per hour.
Then use trains (look at eurorail passes) or LCCs to get around in europe.
On many of your city pairs the train is actually faster than flying and you save the expenses to/from the airport. Budapest-Vienna for example is only around 3 hours with at least one train per hour.
Hi,
Thank you so much for all your responses.
After much deliberation, I pruned my itinerary to the following destinations.
Bangalore - Dubai - Cairo - Athens - Istanbul - Bucharest - Budapest - Vienna - Salzburg - Zurich - Paris - London - Bangalore
It was a bit of a let down
but I guess it makes sense monetarily. Also I will be able to spend more time at each destination! 
Will I have any problems with the above itinerary? I mean...since I would be coming back from London, and crossing over between Asia<-> Europe twice? I was not able to plan this trip on the Star Alliance website because of this issue.
any other suggestions/comments most welcome!
Thank you so much for all your responses.
After much deliberation, I pruned my itinerary to the following destinations.
Bangalore - Dubai - Cairo - Athens - Istanbul - Bucharest - Budapest - Vienna - Salzburg - Zurich - Paris - London - Bangalore
It was a bit of a let down
but I guess it makes sense monetarily. Also I will be able to spend more time at each destination! 
Will I have any problems with the above itinerary? I mean...since I would be coming back from London, and crossing over between Asia<-> Europe twice? I was not able to plan this trip on the Star Alliance website because of this issue.
any other suggestions/comments most welcome!
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Hi,
Thank you so much for all your responses.
After much deliberation, I pruned my itinerary to the following destinations.
Bangalore - Dubai - Cairo - Athens - Istanbul - Bucharest - Budapest - Vienna - Salzburg - Zurich - Paris - London - Bangalore
It was a bit of a let down
but I guess it makes sense monetarily. Also I will be able to spend more time at each destination! 
Will I have any problems with the above itinerary? I mean...since I would be coming back from London, and crossing over between Asia<-> Europe twice? I was not able to plan this trip on the Star Alliance website because of this issue.
any other suggestions/comments most welcome!
Thank you so much for all your responses.
After much deliberation, I pruned my itinerary to the following destinations.
Bangalore - Dubai - Cairo - Athens - Istanbul - Bucharest - Budapest - Vienna - Salzburg - Zurich - Paris - London - Bangalore
It was a bit of a let down
but I guess it makes sense monetarily. Also I will be able to spend more time at each destination! 
Will I have any problems with the above itinerary? I mean...since I would be coming back from London, and crossing over between Asia<-> Europe twice? I was not able to plan this trip on the Star Alliance website because of this issue.
any other suggestions/comments most welcome!
Bangalore - London / / Return from Paris - Bangalore
From London, take a low cost carrier, like Ryanair, or Easy Jet to Budapest.
www.easyjet.com
From Budapest - take the train, (use a Eurailpass for people under 26 years old) to the rest of your destinations. You may see how much it costs here:http://www.eurail.com/eurail-passes/eurail-global-pass
Go to a travel agent in Bangalore (or your home town) to buy this pass before you travel - and they can also explain to you how this works. The best one for you is the 10 days in 21 days.. which means you can use this pass 10 days in 21 days so you can stopover and see the sights a few days here and there. Your travel agent can also advise and assist you in obtaining visas for the many countries that you're going.
End your journey in Paris and fly home from there.
Forget about Cairo for now. Same with Istanbul. You may consider them at another time. Cos its harder to get to the latter from Europe on a train! Unless you want to take another low cost carrier from say Vienna. Besides Cairo may not be the best place to go for now...




