Nov 18, 2013, 8:34 am
Last edit by: Boeing_747SP
Aircraft with new C seats
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted
How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product
A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS
A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT
A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU
A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN
B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ
B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.
Jun 20, 2012, 3:25 pm
#46
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My wife and I are in C on LH419 on 28 June. I believe we are in the new C, correct? We are traveling with infant and have reserved 10H/K which is the bassinet position. When I called LH, they confirmed that we still have those seats, and still had the bassinet, but he was unable to confirm that it was the new C. Anyone have any info on the bassinet situation in the new C? Are we on a 748, and the bassinet is in the same place? Or are we on an old 744? Thanks.
Jun 20, 2012, 3:41 pm
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My wife and I are in C on LH419 on 28 June. I believe we are in the new C, correct? We are traveling with infant and have reserved 10H/K which is the bassinet position. When I called LH, they confirmed that we still have those seats, and still had the bassinet, but he was unable to confirm that it was the new C. Anyone have any info on the bassinet situation in the new C? Are we on a 748, and the bassinet is in the same place? Or are we on an old 744? Thanks.
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IAD Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD] FRA Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF] THU 28 Jun 2012 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------------------------------------------------- LH 419 IAD 17:55 FRA 08:05 74H F2 A2 J9 C9 D9 Z0 P0 Y9 B5 M4 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Luf...eing_747_8.php
Jun 20, 2012, 9:58 pm
#48
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KVS / Seatguru. Hmm should've tried that first. Thanks for the assist!
Jun 30, 2012, 8:29 pm
#49
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Sorry for the beginner question, but I'm a bit confused about what flights have the new C configuration. I'm planning on buying a RTW C fare with LH or LX.
What are the chances of flying the new LH C configuration on SIN - FRA/MUC or FRA/MUC-JFK. First flight around Aug 8 and second around Aug 25 or so, depending on Z availability.
Thanks in advance
What are the chances of flying the new LH C configuration on SIN - FRA/MUC or FRA/MUC-JFK. First flight around Aug 8 and second around Aug 25 or so, depending on Z availability.
Thanks in advance
Jul 1, 2012, 12:17 am
#50
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Sorry for the beginner question, but I'm a bit confused about what flights have the new C configuration. I'm planning on buying a RTW C fare with LH or LX.
What are the chances of flying the new LH C configuration on SIN - FRA/MUC or FRA/MUC-JFK. First flight around Aug 8 and second around Aug 25 or so, depending on Z availability.
Thanks in advance
What are the chances of flying the new LH C configuration on SIN - FRA/MUC or FRA/MUC-JFK. First flight around Aug 8 and second around Aug 25 or so, depending on Z availability.
Thanks in advance
A333
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIKP
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIKQ
748
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-ABYA
Note that the 748 is exclusively running IAD-FRA right now. The 333's seems to bounce around a bit. SIN doesn't show up at all. JFK-MUC has been in the mix in the past.
Jul 1, 2012, 1:44 am
#51
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Here's the recent flights on the three LH planes that currently have the new C:
A333
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIKP
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIKQ
748
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-ABYA
Note that the 748 is exclusively running IAD-FRA right now. The 333's seems to bounce around a bit. SIN doesn't show up at all. JFK-MUC has been in the mix in the past.
A333
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIKP
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIKQ
748
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-ABYA
Note that the 748 is exclusively running IAD-FRA right now. The 333's seems to bounce around a bit. SIN doesn't show up at all. JFK-MUC has been in the mix in the past.
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIKR
And there may be one more 748 by August.
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-ABYC
As you can see A333s with the new C are based in MUC and the 748 in FRA.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Jul 8, 2012 at 2:02 am Reason: corrected link
Jul 7, 2012, 7:31 pm
#52
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So let me see if I understand this. Assuming I'm on a A330 with the "old" F product, exactly what am I getting? The flight I'm looking at doesn't seem to be updated.
Jul 8, 2012, 2:07 pm
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If you are asking about the old F cabin here are a couple of youtube videos you might like to check.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbAk_Fs8sJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HriX08sYqso
There were shot on the A346 and A343 on westbound TATL flights but the cabin will be the same on the A333.
Jul 8, 2012, 2:18 pm
#54
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But that won't help you with the SIN part of the trip.
But if it's an RTW it will be an *A RTW so you can choose other airlines.
Jul 11, 2012, 1:06 am
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Looks like the 346 with new C/F will loose 4 C seats and economy stays the same:
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p..._328457875.pdf
Retrofits of the 346 will however only really start in W12/13
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p..._328457875.pdf
Retrofits of the 346 will however only really start in W12/13
Jul 11, 2012, 2:20 am
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Yes- great advice. On a *A RTW book SQ to SIN in business and use two evouichers to upgrade to F (will not work to R). Easy upgrade usually and a great use of both evouchers as a RTW books into D class and a great plane and service.
Jul 11, 2012, 8:07 am
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Looks like the 346 with new C/F will loose 4 C seats and economy stays the same:
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p..._328457875.pdf
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p..._328457875.pdf
lufthansa.com now has only one seatmap for the 3-class 346 (8/48/270) listed but seatguru shows a different 3-class configuration (8/60/238). Whichever way the new configuration of 8/56/229 seems to have fewer Y seats than before.
Jul 11, 2012, 9:42 am
#58
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8/60/238 (Y starting row 26) is the most common 346 flying around now.
Jul 11, 2012, 11:03 am
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So the new configuration will have fewer C seats and fewer Y seats - not the same as the current 346. I wonder why lufthansa.com does not show the most common configuration. EF seatmaps mostly show the 8/48/270 version as well.
Jul 11, 2012, 1:55 pm
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Looks like the 346 with new C/F will loose 4 C seats and economy stays the same:
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p..._328457875.pdf
Retrofits of the 346 will however only really start in W12/13
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p..._328457875.pdf
Retrofits of the 346 will however only really start in W12/13
8/48/270 is the most common config right now as it's summer and most of the 744 & 346 fleets are in QC1 config, i.e. they have a reduced amount of business class seating.