The thread is fairly newbie-friendly, as long as one is willing to put in some work of one's own. E.g. figure out the basics, know how it works and come with concrete questions not "explain it to me" or "i'm lost". The basics are REALLY easy to find out. While it's harder to find suitable 3X or even your first fuel dumps, it's MUCH better if you figure it out by yourself instead of asking for help, as then you can actually contribute to the thread.

The basics are easy to understand, but fuel dumps are hard to find - if they were easy to find, everyone would be doing it and the loophole wouldn't exist. So if someone's not willing to put in the hours of newbie-work, they won't be welcome because most people here have also had to put in that work. And simply telling someone a working fuel dump isn't gonna make them a contributer to this thread, as they STILL won't understand how it works and how to find them.

Once you've proven that you understand the logic (e.g. "Found a 50% fuel dump from x to y, is it possible to dump it more with alliance z), help will come in, because that shows that the person has done their homework and probably just needs a little hint in the right direction.

The problem is that most people aren't willing to do this, which is why it comes across as not-newbie-friendly.

Thanks for your reply.

I do actually understand that hidden tickets and FD have nothing to do with each other although, perhaps, they are attractive to those who appreciate the hunt for savings and/or other benefits.

I didn't see a thread that seemed specifically appropriate for such a query and so thought one about non-traditional ticketing practices might at least have an audience willing to point me in the right direction.

I'd be happy to repost elsewhere if you or someone else could direct me.

As for unwelcome attitudes, I'd hoped to avoid them, and have read many of the opening posts trying to find a good spot for my question. I aim to learn what I can and contribute at some point....I was looking to inject a little humor with my note as to not yet being an expert.

It's all good - just read up on fuel dumping some more and then come back once you have specific questions? Google (and especially google cashed) are your friend here

And thanks to you, Smiley. I absolutely understand that.

I've read enough of the thread to know that some effort is required...and have had some initial fun tinkering with the tools and combing through the posts. I'd rather 'learn to fish', trust me.

Again, I do mean to follow forum guidelines, so if anyone has a better suggestion for my hidden ticketing query, please holler.

Thanks for the introduction.

Some people like to use a ff# on a partner airline of the one whose metal they are flying since they get miles and the airline is less likely to notice the trend.

Yes, thanks! I have done that myself, with no trouble whatsoever. Actually I think I may have used my Amtrak loyalty number somehow, if I'm remembering correctly, as I take the train about as much as I fly.

Nice answer: Balanced but direct and to the point and focused - yet polite.
Indeed LA: SCL and LA: LIM were my destinations of choice back then. Worked in reverse too. "Hidden YQ". I actually posted about it back then but not much response as I recall.

Spain-C1, $385, & 2 Questions
 

Spain-C1, winter 2016, $385, no x factor, not ITA'ble

*UPDATE: Blog sighting, although, deals are slightly different*

a) if there's no x's involved it's not a fuel dump and doesn't belong in this thread. If you don't wanna share it with FT, then why bother posting... someone's gonna post it eventually, since...

b) that's a blog-deal. It's on secretflying. Everyone can see it. People frown upon posting blog-deals uncredited to the mileage run/cheap fare forum, why would this place be different?

I'll make it easier on anyone since it's posted and thus likely gone soon anyway:

Valencia-Miami 319 Euro RT
Bilbao-KUL 395 Euro RT
Poland-Japan//New York-Italy 394 Euro Double OJ

sigh.

Thanks for the pointers. I'll dig through the archives for more.

Wrong. While the overwhelming discussion here is about FD'ng, this is NOT a fuel dump only thread. Per the wiki:

"This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares"

Members would be very interested in any new developments that lower prices on fares.

As for my particular deal, the YQ was substantially lower than what was on ITA, leading me to believe this was a GDS/OTA error, which is the exact type of deal that should be here.

After posting the deal here, and then seeing something similar on SF, I edited my post to reflect that. I thought I made that clear with "*UPDATE: Blog sighting, although, deals are slightly different*". Perhaps not?

Agreed. However, please consider the possibility that both blogs and members can find the same deals, and sometimes do...on their own AND it isn't an attempt to post "blog-deals uncredited".

Not the deal, as I said. Not that it's hard to figure out, though, my deal was MAD to MIA.

sigh.

getting miles credited
 

I've google'd and searched this thread (see below) but can't find the answer...hope someone can help:

If I've an AA itin with a non-AA 3x:
- will I get miles for the flown AA itin if the 3x is unflown?
- in fact, will I get AA miles even if the 3x is flown? (some people seem to think not...)

edit: I'm trying to get those AA miles to meet a challenge, hence the inkling
that AA might scrutinize those miles credited more than usual?

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Some previous threads I found, but not directly related. Hence my question above:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...get-miles.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22720224-post33073.html

You obviously won't get miles for sectors not flown. Will get miles for all sectors flown. Don't contact airline though for mileage credit

I see a 3x on the same airline as the first flights. Would that make issues?

Alitalia is at it again - Roman Holidays revisited
 

Romantically inclined Alitalia seems to have some nice travel opportunities

AZ: New York - Rome Stop-over as long as you want ( vacation )

AZ:Rome - Venezia/Bologna/Milano + 2 other secret cities even in mid-summer.

$ 323,00 All-in.

If you choose your vacation stop-over in Northern Italy the all in price drops to $ 287.95