Why do I need to fly?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Portland, OR 97201
Posts: 77
Why do I need to fly?
Here's a simple question - instead of actually flying a mileage run - why can't I book the flight I want - not fly - forfeit all fees I paid and get the miles - this would still give the airline the same revenue but I wouldn't have to fly just to get the MQM's.
#2
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,102
You can. Some people gather their miles this way.
I fly because I am addicted, and I have a problem. Hey, admittance is the first step, right?
BTW: This will most likely be moved to the "Mileage Run Discussion" section. Just a heads up.
I fly because I am addicted, and I have a problem. Hey, admittance is the first step, right?
BTW: This will most likely be moved to the "Mileage Run Discussion" section. Just a heads up.
#3
Original Member, Moderator: Hotel Deals and MilesBuzz




Join Date: May 1998
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What's the fun in that?
#4
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Portland, OR 97201
Posts: 77
can I do this with Delta?
Do you have to call and tell them that you don't want the unused fee but credit the miles?
#6
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Are you saying book a mileage run and then not fly it but still earn miles? If so, that's not possible. The airlines don't give you the miles unless you fly.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Duluth, GA
Programs: AAdvantage PLT, AA 2MM, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,268
Yup. That's why they call them BIS miles.
#8
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: IAD, DCA
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Most of the answers above are nonsense.
One reason you must get your butt into the seat is so that folks don't simply scan fares and buy the cheapest from anywhere to anywhere to collect the miles. Do you think any airline wants to sell me every $149 transcon seat they have thus allowing me to buy miles and status for next to nothing?
Here's an example, in the above scenario I buy 100K RDM and 1K status on UA for $2500. But after reaching 2P I got a 25% RDM bonus, and after reaching 1P I got a 100% RDM bonus. So I really have more like 175K RDM.
So, now for $2500 I have enough RDM for 2 C class tickets to Europe plus change and 6 SWUs (not to mention CR1s, 500 milers, etc.). Net value maybe $10,000 without leaving my computer.
Now do you understand why you need to fly to earn miles?
One reason you must get your butt into the seat is so that folks don't simply scan fares and buy the cheapest from anywhere to anywhere to collect the miles. Do you think any airline wants to sell me every $149 transcon seat they have thus allowing me to buy miles and status for next to nothing?
Here's an example, in the above scenario I buy 100K RDM and 1K status on UA for $2500. But after reaching 2P I got a 25% RDM bonus, and after reaching 1P I got a 100% RDM bonus. So I really have more like 175K RDM.
So, now for $2500 I have enough RDM for 2 C class tickets to Europe plus change and 6 SWUs (not to mention CR1s, 500 milers, etc.). Net value maybe $10,000 without leaving my computer.
Now do you understand why you need to fly to earn miles?
#9
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Portland, OR 97201
Posts: 77
Still don't get it
If I'm paying whatever fare - why does they airline care if I am in the seat or not - it gives them more room to put on the standbys and oversold - and they aren't losing any revenue for it - they are potentially making more yet losing absolutely nothing if I'm not on-board but I have paid for it.
#10
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: SPG, HH, AA, UA, BD, Hyatt, TYP
Posts: 1,404
If I book a MR....I want to fly it so I can get DBCFREE and travel credits for more MRs!!
Halothane
Halothane
#11
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ORD
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Posts: 169
It simply doesn't work that way.
Other than elite qualifying miles you might get from trading RDM you earn in some credit card programs, you won't get miles unless you put your BIS.
#12
Join Date: Jul 2007
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#13


Join Date: Sep 2001
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If I'm paying whatever fare - why does they airline care if I am in the seat or not - it gives them more room to put on the standbys and oversold - and they aren't losing any revenue for it - they are potentially making more yet losing absolutely nothing if I'm not on-board but I have paid for it.
#15


Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
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No, I am only saying I can see why a noob like the OP would see it that way. No way if I were an airline or hotel would I award status to people who reserved a seat or a room but didn't fly or check in. It would result in too many elites and anger the true elites who were BIS or BIB.

