[PREM FARE GONE] CAI to World - Currency Conversion Issue?
#271
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But as a generator of miles or status in OneWorld, or elsewhere, the deal is pretty hopeless.
#272
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Agree about making status here but you can stil get 20+ k avios in QR (with fast and easy transfer to BA or to BA->IB if needed) for the round-trip. So it's not like there are no miles at all.
#273
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Not sure if anything has changed since, but worth checking.
#274
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Paraguay is a quite decent country but a bit boring. And ASU is s terrible jumping off point to other points in South America, no flights are cheap from there. But you can get to Brazil or Argentina for about $20 on a 'first class' bus, albeit in about 4-6hours.
#275
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Holy cow! Only 20k? I forget the CAI-ASU price but it wasn't really that cheap. I'm getting 160k AAdvantage miles from the DONE5 I booked during the availability period from CAI. It's not gone yet, but has become much harder to book. That's 8x the miles for less than 4x the price..............
Paraguay is a quite decent country but a bit boring. And ASU is s terrible jumping off point to other points in South America, no flights are cheap from there. But you can get to Brazil or Argentina for about $20 on a 'first class' bus, albeit in about 4-6hours.
Paraguay is a quite decent country but a bit boring. And ASU is s terrible jumping off point to other points in South America, no flights are cheap from there. But you can get to Brazil or Argentina for about $20 on a 'first class' bus, albeit in about 4-6hours.
#276
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You can ticket literally anything right now just to get it in, but you need to fly the first segment if a re-price happens before making drastic changes. They're incredibly flexible tickets, just fly the first segment before doing much to it.
For the tiny price difference though I'd definitely do a DONE5 vs a 4 at the moment, but I couldn't get Oceana to work on mine, only South America and Africa as the 4th and 5th.
I don't know AY's program at all, so you'll need to route to optimize for that, where I routed to optimize for AA credit (basically I'm on nearly all QR and JL codes, I only have 2 short domestic flights that aren't on QR or JL codes on the entire ticket since BA and IB codes became garbage earlier this year)
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#277
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#278
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For myself "if" I book with AA they require me to ticket with at least one overwater segment as AA. That's a huge disadvantage to AA members because it's then 5-11x revenue vs. distance.... on a RTW ticket you'll never even remotely come out ahead on a revenue base even at 11x for EXP. I think on my most recent RTW on a CX stock, for DFW-SAL-DFW I got about 1/5 of what I would have gotten if it were distance based. Maybe less actually, it's pretty pathetic. So in my RTW calculations, I just zero out any AA coded segments and treat it as a slight bonus.
#279
Join Date: Jun 2016
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At least as of today AA and BA were still booking them, but the OW tool is now blocking all ex-CAI RTWs. You have to call for AA or BA, no online booking. Current base fares are 141,000 EGP for DONE4 and 145,000 EGP for DONE5, so you might as well do a 5. If you have a decent travel agent, then they can book on any currently available fare, but for AY status, I don't believe AA or BA ticketing is a penalty like it is for myself (AAdvantage crediting). Actual ticketed prices, if you can get it done before a re-price happens, seem to fall between $3800-4800 USD.
You can ticket literally anything right now just to get it in, but you need to fly the first segment if a re-price happens before making drastic changes. They're incredibly flexible tickets, just fly the first segment before doing much to it.
For the tiny price difference though I'd definitely do a DONE5 vs a 4 at the moment, but I couldn't get Oceana to work on mine, only South America and Africa as the 4th and 5th.
I don't know AY's program at all, so you'll need to route to optimize for that, where I routed to optimize for AA credit (basically I'm on nearly all QR and JL codes, I only have 2 short domestic flights that aren't on QR or JL codes on the entire ticket since BA and IB codes became garbage earlier this year)
You can ticket literally anything right now just to get it in, but you need to fly the first segment if a re-price happens before making drastic changes. They're incredibly flexible tickets, just fly the first segment before doing much to it.
For the tiny price difference though I'd definitely do a DONE5 vs a 4 at the moment, but I couldn't get Oceana to work on mine, only South America and Africa as the 4th and 5th.
I don't know AY's program at all, so you'll need to route to optimize for that, where I routed to optimize for AA credit (basically I'm on nearly all QR and JL codes, I only have 2 short domestic flights that aren't on QR or JL codes on the entire ticket since BA and IB codes became garbage earlier this year)
#280
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Connections within the continent are certainly awkward, but I think we paid less than £100 for flights to Jorge Newbery in B.As
oops! I'm almost talking myself into making the trip !
#281
Join Date: May 2023
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Initially, I booked CAI-DOH-GRU-ASU for $889 RT but then realized I could do CAI-MVD for $921 on QR/LATAM when booked directly through LATAM. Montevideo seemed to be a much more interesting city and it’s only a ~2.5hr ferry or 55min $50 flight away from Buenos Aires. Planning to spend a day or two in MVD and the rest in BS. Now just trying to figure out the best way to reposition to CAI from NYC.
Last edited by civilizer; Mar 23, 2024 at 6:15 pm
#283
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The QR fare and Star Alliance around the world fare have been deleted / modified. The oneworld around the world ticket hasn't been changed. A few airlines from China and Ethiopian still haven't repriced or have barely repriced so you can still find bargains.
#284
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It's boringness can be an attraction after the fireworks of mainstream South American cities
And OK, visiting the Jesuit reductions might be boring for many, but Asuncion is something of a charmer (in parts), while bus, car or a short fight will get you to Ciudad del Este with access to the borders with Brasil and Argentina, the Iguacu Falls and the much less visited Monday Falls.
Connections within the continent are certainly awkward, but I think we paid less than £100 for flights to Jorge Newbery in B.As
oops! I'm almost talking myself into making the trip !
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Connections within the continent are certainly awkward, but I think we paid less than £100 for flights to Jorge Newbery in B.As
oops! I'm almost talking myself into making the trip !
Initially, I booked CAI-DOH-GRU-ASU for $889 RT but then realized I could do CAI-MVD for $921 on QR/LATAM when booked directly through LATAM. Montevideo seemed to be a much more interesting city and it’s only a ~2.5hr ferry or 55min $50 flight away from Buenos Aires. Planning to spend a day or two in MVD and the rest in BS. Now just trying to figure out the best way to reposition to CAI from NYC.
#285
Actually, most of the Oneworld xONEx fares have been modified to be much higher. The ex CAI rtw party is pretty much over.