Any way to start in LAX or SFO?
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Originally Posted by dtremit
(Post 34445936)
I think SYD is the problem with the JL rules, not LAX. I can get it to work JFK-LAX-HND-CGK on a JL ticket.
It looks like the JL route rules are very specific about where you can connect: Code:
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 13JAN20 |
Originally Posted by nancypants
(Post 34444541)
Wonder if it works ex CGK for us QFers
Originally Posted by 1k650
(Post 34446177)
Any way to start in LAX or SFO?
Worth note as well, NH and UA have quite a few similar deals. At least ex-SE Asia they have more cities available currently than AA and JL. |
You can also add in DFW as an extra stop (i.e. JFK-DFW-LAX-HND-SYD-CGK v.v.) but as a BA Frequent Flyer, that's no benefit as i'd earn more TPs going JFK-LAX on a transcontinental service.
For $5 more you can also add DCA (i.e. JFK-DCA-LAX-HND-SYD-CGK v.v.) which does add an extra 40TPs each way, but moves you into recliners instead of lay flat on the US transcon. Matrix Link for those struggling. |
Originally Posted by dvs7310
(Post 34446913)
No, for the past couple of years, these have been NYC only. Seems to rotate between CGK, SGN, and BKK, often with a similar deal in the other direction as well. This is the first year though that the AA fare ex-SE Asia uses QR metal instead of JL, presumably because the new 'closer' relationship that started a couple of months ago. I certainly wouldn't complain about QSuites over JL's quite narrow J seats, and I think CGK gets the 788 which has the old recliners still.
Worth note as well, NH and UA have quite a few similar deals. At least ex-SE Asia they have more cities available currently than AA and JL. |
Please confirm that the fare basis for the AA fare is RRLE08MN2 ?
If so please can you explain the transfer restrictions, EF has the following text; 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ON AA ONLY IN BOS/CHI/CLT/DFW/LAX/MIA/NYC/PHL/PHX/SAN/ SFO/WAS/YVR IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA AND AS IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. This suggests that transfers in SYD are not permitted, or am I reading the rules wrong? Thank you. |
Originally Posted by PO48RA
(Post 34448977)
Please confirm that the fare basis for the AA fare is RRLE08MN2 ?
If so please can you explain the transfer restrictions, EF has the following text; 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ON AA ONLY IN BOS/CHI/CLT/DFW/LAX/MIA/NYC/PHL/PHX/SAN/ SFO/WAS/YVR IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA AND AS IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. This suggests that transfers in SYD are not permitted, or am I reading the rules wrong? Thank you. |
I can't reproduce this on matrix. It prices out at $16000.What am I doing wrong ? Any help is appreciated
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7b9c692853.jpg |
Originally Posted by Hilmar Lehnert
(Post 34449213)
I can't reproduce this on matrix. It prices out at $16000.What am I doing wrong ? Any help is appreciated
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7b9c692853.jpg and QF Syd QF That’s what I did in oldmatrix site and perhaps make dates more flexible in case R is gone on some flight! |
Originally Posted by PO48RA
(Post 34448977)
Please confirm that the fare basis for the AA fare is RRLE08MN2 ?
If so please can you explain the transfer restrictions, EF has the following text; 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ON AA ONLY IN BOS/CHI/CLT/DFW/LAX/MIA/NYC/PHL/PHX/SAN/ SFO/WAS/YVR IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. NONE PERMITTED IN SHA IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA AND AS IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. This suggests that transfers in SYD are not permitted, or am I reading the rules wrong? Thank you. there are multiple sub clauses that are difficult to understnad in this format - SYD is allowed and i ticketed it already in last few days without an issue |
Originally Posted by nufnuf77
(Post 34449486)
not sure how the new matrix works but can you put airline codes for each segment? aa lax Aa
and QF Syd QF That’s what I did in oldmatrix site and perhaps make dates more flexible in case R is gone on some flight! It's also obviously not guaranteed to work every single day of the schedule. |
Originally Posted by nufnuf77
(Post 34444195)
hi - I can’t quite link as Google flights don’t show it but old ITA matrix does. Dates are wide open- you need R class on Transpacific segments on AA.
#AboveMyPayGrade, but still ... |
Originally Posted by nufnuf77
(Post 34444198)
if you or anyone needs I am happy to help put an itinerary together for you (disclaimer I am an old fashioned travel agent as a side kick for fun)
I am working on getting 7 max flyer talkers to do this as a DO with 1 day in Jakarta… Also, Exp Flyer shows ticketable (I think? Or at least viewable by EF, presumably in the GDS.) QF routings HND-MEL-SYD-CGK on 3/21. The outbound would depart at about the same time, and end up connecting to the same outbound SYD-CGK sector -- despite the dog-leg to MEL first. Might MEL sidestep the prohibition of stopovers in SYD/AKL? Cuz I would also love a week or two in MEL for some good coffee and a side jaunt to HBA. PS."Old-fashioned" everything works for me, and usually IS more "fun," anyway. |
8 legs max per ticket?
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Jfk lax tyo syd cgk
How far out does this deal run?
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