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Old Mar 15, 2020, 10:29 am
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FARE RULES:
I pulled down the DL fare rules (these are BUD-SEA but they all appeared nearly identical). I posted them on a share. We can easily grab the AF and KL variants if others need those.

Q: This is a fully flexible fare with free changes. Does that mean I can change the flight dates as I want without paying anything extra?
A: No. The airline simply doesn't charge a change fee. But depending on the fare rules, you will still need to pay the difference to the new price.

Q: But I read that some people could change their flights for free...?
A: The rules for this fare (linked to above) specify that historical pricing shall be used if either at least one flight from the ticket has been taken or the outbound remains the same. In other words, in order to be able to change your flights for free, you must have flown at least one flight from your booking. Otherwise, you can only change the inbound. The outbound has to remain the same or you will be charged the fare difference.

Q: Can I change the rest of the itinerary after flying the first segment without any other charges or additional fare differences?
A: Yes this is possible according to the fare rules where after completing the first segment, you can change the rest of the flights for free (with the condition that the same fare class is available- I-class - in this case. According to the fare rules, after flying the FIRST segment (in the case here BUD-XXX) the historical fare is used. Possible to use the first stopover at AMS or CDG (see post #830).

Q: But some people could change their outbound flights for free!
A: They got lucky. It was probably a bug on the website/in the app. When no flight from the ticket has been flown, the fare rules do not allow changing the outbound without repricing.

Q: Ok, ok, so I can only change the inbound for free. How do I do that?
A: You search for availability for alternative flights on ITA Matrix using "F ..I2FFHU" in the extension codes. You must search for round trip flights as this is a round trip fare. Then you ignore the outbound result (as long as you haven't flown at least one flight from your ticket) and just try to rebook your inbound on the website/app.

Q: I have found availability on ITA Matrix, but the app/website doesn't show me those flights!
A: Keep trying. Sometimes you may have to serach in a different way (split up the searches, e.g. HNL-LAX and LAX-BUD), sometimes you just have to repeat the search several times. But that's no guarantee the desired results will turn up (and without repricing).

Q: It doesn't work. Can I just call the airline to make the changes?
A: Please don't unless you need to. Calling can increase the risk for all of us that they'll change their mind and disallow all further changes, or simply cancel everyone's tickets. However, as this fare has now been running for months and has seen many calls made about it, it is reasonable to expect that calling will not cause issues at this stage. As best practice, avoid attracting attention on the low price paid, and avoid making additional demands or tempting your luck. Remember you get to fly a J ticket for the cost of a Y fare.

Q: How many times can I make changes?
A: In theory, as often as you like, but you can't make more than two changes online/in the app. After that, you'd have to call, which we are trying to avoid.

Q: I've changed my mind. Can I get a refund?
A: Yes, the fare was fully refundable. Just contact the airline or fill out a refund form online.

Q: Due to Coronavirus, I need to extend my travel plan beyond the original expiry date. What can I do?
A: For Delta tickets (starting with 006) you can travel at any point until December 2022. Changes to flights within a 10 month window can be done at any point on the app, following the rules above. If you want to fly later than 10 months from now, you can call Delta and ask them to "park" your ticket. You will receive a ticket number that ties to an eCredit which can be used later to buy tickets. As long as you keep the original itinerary, or if you have flown at least a segment, you will not be charged a fare difference. Bear in mind that the eCredit may only be refundable if your original flight was cancelled (which is very likely in those day and times). Note that only Delta in the US are able to do this so do not call the EU numbers (use Skype to save money on international calls). According to user feedback: iMessage agents seem to also be able to do this, but twitter agents not.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by Tofino87
Are lie flats from mainland USA to Hawaii (any destination) possible?
somebody mentioned via SLC however I could not find anything like that and focused more on getting new interior on DL flights. Since I don't fly AF J and there is no KL 747. Got it via SEA and back via LAX. Quiet unhappy that DL does not send 757 with lie flat to HNL but tried A321 F on MIA-JFK two days ago as complimentary upgrade (yes, as KL Platinum and I was the only eligible pax!!!!!) and it was better than expecting...
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:13 am
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Do you guys think this will be honoured? It's priced below the cost of fuel...
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:17 am
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HNL fare is killed, other cities still available.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by 747jetter
somebody mentioned via SLC however I could not find anything like that and focused more on getting new interior on DL flights. Since I don't fly AF J and there is no KL 747. Got it via SEA and back via LAX. Quiet unhappy that DL does not send 757 with lie flat to HNL but tried A321 F on MIA-JFK two days ago as complimentary upgrade (yes, as KL Platinum and I was the only eligible pax!!!!!) and it was better than expecting...
I booked BUD-CDG-SLC-OGG/HNL-SLC-AMS-BUD all with lie flats except the BUD legs.
It appears to be gone now though.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:22 am
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Trying instead to get to either LAS or
LAX with the long legs operated by VS on A350/787... it’s saying the only option to book is to telephone!
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:23 am
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Thanks premium.cabin ! Got one for EOS that as a full flex J ticket will work perfectly for me if it's honored.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:24 am
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Just booked: BUD-AMS-JFK-LAX-HNL; HNL-SEA-AMS-BUD for £473/$580 with stopovers in AMS, JFK and LAX on the way out! (August 2020) via Delta.com
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:35 am
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Booked BUD - AMS - SEA - YVR / YVR - CDG - BUD RT for end of July. Under 800 euros. Great deal to get to Canada in the summer in J.

Booked using ita matrix power tools and clicking through to delta.com
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:41 am
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Where is this best to credit, considering that i rarely fly Skyteam?
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:42 am
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Looks to be gone.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by Deckter
Where is this best to credit, considering that i rarely fly Skyteam?
Virgin.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
Virgin.
Is wheretocredit calculation of around 40k miles correct?
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by TerryK
Looks to be gone.
Still very much alive! Just booked another one on delta.com
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by Deckter
Where is this best to credit, considering that i rarely fly Skyteam?
I am getting about 37k to FB as Platinum, my girlfriend about 23k as My Girlfriend only status holder for BUD-AMS-SEA-HNL-LAX-CDG-BUD
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by YYCCL3
Still very much alive! Just booked another one on delta.com
To hawaii? which dates?
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