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Old Sep 20, 2019, 10:33 pm
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Kenya Airways (KQ) X9PR0KQ AMS to ADD
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Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 29JUN OR 14AUG THROUGH 20DEC ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.


Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY KQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY KQ.


Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. NOTE - ELECTRONIC TICKETING ONLY --- TICKETING REQUIRED AS PER THE TICKETING TIME LIMIT AND ADVANCE PURCHASE RULE IF APPLICABLE. THE MORE RESTRICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES. --- IF A TICKET IS USED OUT OF SEQUENCE KQ RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CANCEL THE PNR AND INVALIDATE TICKET FOR THE REMAINING SECTORS. --- IF A PASSENGER FAILS TO TRAVEL ON A SECTOR BOOKED KQ RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CANCEL REMAINING KQ SECTORS. --- IF A PASSENGER HOLDS MULTIPLE RESERVATIONS ON THE SAME SECTOR ON MULTIPLE FLIGHTS OR DATES WHERE IT IS LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TRAVEL ALL SECTORS KQ RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CANCEL ALTERNATIVE SECTORS


Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.


Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.


Category 8: Stopover restrictions
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION AT EUR 75.00 EACH.


Category 10: Combinability
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS WHICH CONSISTS OF NO MORE THAN 2 INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS AND THE OPEN SEGMENT AT ORIGIN MUST BE IN ONE COUNTRY. THE OPEN SEGMENT AT DESTINATION HAS NO RESTRICTIONS. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS -WITHIN AFRICA OR WITHIN ANY ONE COUNTRY IN EUROPE COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AF/KL/AZ/ KQ BETWEEN NETHERLANDS/AREA 2 IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AF/KL/AZ/KQ BETWEEN NETHERLANDS/AREA 2 IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF.


Category 11: Blackout Dates
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 13DEC 19 THROUGH 12JAN 20.


Category 12: Surcharges
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN ANGOLA. A SURCHARGE OF 222 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN NIGERIA. A SURCHARGE OF 50 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN SUDAN. A SURCHARGE OF 131 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR KL. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR AF. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR PW. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR HR. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR YO. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR DL. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR WB. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON KQ OR BP. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON. OTHERWISE A SURCHARGE OF USD 210.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.


Category 14: Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 18SEP 19 AND ON/ BEFORE 20JUN 20. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON 30JUN 20.


Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 17SEP 19 AND ON/BEFORE 24SEP 19.


Category 16: Penalties
CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 150.00. NOTE - CHARGE NO SHOW FEE WHERE APPLICABLE. AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 150.00. NOTE - CHARGE NO SHOW FEE WHERE APPLICABLE. ANY TIME CHARGE EUR 215.00 FOR NO-SHOW. NOTE - CHARGE NO SHOW FEE WHERE APPLICABLE CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF REFUND. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER. NOTE - FREE TEXT - CANCELLATION FEE APPLIES IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED PLUS ANY APPLICABLE NO-SHOW PENALTY. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER. CANCELLATION/REFUND/NO-SHOW FEES ARE NOT COMMISSIONABLE ------------------------------------------------- AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF REFUND. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER. NOTE - AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER. YQ/YR IS NOT REFUNDABLE


Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - VALID ON KQ ONLY- IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.


Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER. IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY KQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY KQ ON DIRECT FLIGHTS UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE PLUS USD 50.00. TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM0. NOTE - ROUNDTRIP WITHOUT TRANSFER -------------USD50 UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE PLUS USD 100.00. TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM0. NOTE - ROUNDTRIP WITH TRANSFER -------------USD100


Category 23: Miscellaneous Fare Tags
THIS FARE MAY BE USED FOR ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION.


Category 25: Fare By Rule
ORIGINATING AMS - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST


Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF KQ INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE EUR 150.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. KQ FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. KQ FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA EMD ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF KQ INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE EUR 365.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. KQ FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA EMD ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF KQ INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE EUR 150.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. KQ FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA EMD ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF KQ INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE EUR 365.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. KQ FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT - REFUND VIA EMD ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.


Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16


Category 35: Negotiated Fares
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS


Category 50: Application
KQ FARES FOR ALL AGENTS-PRIVATE-GLOBAL PROMO APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY WITHIN AREA 2. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT








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Old Nov 9, 2019, 12:46 pm
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Typing this post from seat 3D on KQ117 in AMS, so I think we're all good to fly
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Old Nov 9, 2019, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by danfl44
Typing this post from seat 3D on KQ117 in AMS, so I think we're all good to fly
Good result!
Did you get a call/email with the 3 options?
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Old Nov 10, 2019, 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by BA707
Good result!
Did you get a call/email with the 3 options?
Yeah, I got this weird email, but nothing happened/changed.
Katzz, Opacity and justflyaway like this.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by danfl44
Yeah, I got this weird email, but nothing happened/changed.
Did you check baggage?
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by justflyaway
Did you check baggage?
Yes. Definitely didn't want my larger back on me during the long NBO layover (which was rather pleasant, as it was on a beautiful Sunday without any traffic, so really worth it seeing some places and some animals around the city).

I wouldn't at all be worried about a check-in agent seeing something is off (if there actually is anything off in the booking). If there is something so obvious a check-in agent would notice, they will as well refuse boarding at the gate.
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Old Nov 11, 2019, 3:39 pm
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This is great news!

My trip is in April, so will be waiting to hear what others say before booking my positioning flights.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 13, 2019, 8:11 am
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I've just got the call from my OTA where I booked those flights and they told me they can go ahead and process full refund (it was finally authorised by the airline), however Kenya proposed they could reinstate my original reservation. I asked OTA to confirm my reinstated reservation will remain in business class as I booked and they confirmed they're authorised to book the flights in business class. I'll probably agree and try to reinstate my reservation. We will see how it'll go.
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Old Nov 13, 2019, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by pull_over
I've just got the call from my OTA where I booked those flights and they told me they can go ahead and process full refund (it was finally authorised by the airline), however Kenya proposed they could reinstate my original reservation. I asked OTA to confirm my reinstated reservation will remain in business class as I booked and they confirmed they're authorised to book the flights in business class. I'll probably agree and try to reinstate my reservation. We will see how it'll go.
Got the exact same message today, couldn't believe it to be true actually. I'm going to confirm with KQ themselves whether this is correct.
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Old Nov 14, 2019, 7:05 am
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Don't call the airline! Rule 101.
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Old Nov 14, 2019, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by HalconBCN
Don't call the airline! Rule 101.
You don't really understand
my reservation has been cancelled already
and OTA has already called airline regarding this particular reservation because it was cancelled
and now the airline proposed to reinstate, instead of full refund

do you?
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Old Nov 14, 2019, 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by pull_over
You don't really understand
my reservation has been cancelled already
and OTA has already called airline regarding this particular reservation because it was cancelled
and now the airline proposed to reinstate, instead of full refund

do you?
I do understand, but you need to realize that by drawing KQ's attention to the errror you are putting at risk the reservations of everyone else.
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Old Nov 15, 2019, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by HalconBCN
I do understand, but you need to realize that by drawing KQ's attention to the errror you are putting at risk the reservations of everyone else.
Drawing attention to the error?

The error has gotten their attention already. They emailed customers about it etc.
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by pull_over
I've just got the call from my OTA where I booked those flights and they told me they can go ahead and process full refund (it was finally authorised by the airline), however Kenya proposed they could reinstate my original reservation. I asked OTA to confirm my reinstated reservation will remain in business class as I booked and they confirmed they're authorised to book the flights in business class. I'll probably agree and try to reinstate my reservation. We will see how it'll go.
Did you get your booking reinstated?
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Old Nov 17, 2019, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by justflyaway
Did you get your booking reinstated?
Not really - I found out that the woman of my life booked some surprise-trip when this fare did not go through. However I'm gonna ask them to reinstate the booking in September/October (I was suposed to fly in April). If they agree then great, if not I don't really care anymore.
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Old Nov 18, 2019, 9:47 am
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My booking has been reinstated after getting a request from the OTA to choose between reinstating or further processing the refund that I had requested earlier. KQ MMB showing all flights in J with same PNR and e-tkt#, MMB showed nothing after requesting the refund.

Let's see what happens in february when I'm due to fly...
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