Flying for Fun

You can try F LA..; F BC=X BC=N BC=V in the fare controls. One or all, just separate with the verticle bar, semi-colon between commands.

James

EDIT: There should be a verticle bar between each BC=X, Flyertalk is stripping them away.

Flying for Fun

Try SCL-SYD-PER-SIN-TYO or SCL-SYD-BNE-ICN-TYO or...... lol

James

rosege

Ha great route! I just tried that and see it coming up too - amazing.
Thanks for all the info - helps me a lot! havent finalised the plan yet but you've given me more ideas!
Also I've found using bc=i can also sometimes get some of the flights in business for around the same price (or slightly above) if not doing the 4 stopovers

Flying for Fun

Good to hear. The J fares (except EK) are from the lowest fare buckets. BA will be R class, EK will be O, JL will be X etc... By specifying F bc=i some flights may be excluded or no results returned if not mapped between the airlines. Alternatively, in the fare control you can add +CABIN 2 to specify business on that leg.

I have also found JL to be finicky. Sometimes it will be business X class, sometimes Full Fare Y class so watch your options closely. I didn't use SQ or JL because they don't credit as much to Mileage Plan.

In February we are doing a route starting in SYD but taking the Island Route, 9 segments, 4 Y (all <5 hours long), 5 J with a 12 day stopover in PPT for an 8 day Tahitian Cruise and a few days in Bora Bora. The route is SYD-AKL-PPT-IPC-SCL-MAD-LHR-SEZ-DXB-NRT, with an Emirates chauffer drive from NRT close to HND for our JL F awards back to Canada. CX 1F & 1J awards will get us to Los Angles for LAX-HKG//HKG-BNE . We have ~23 hours in AKL, IPC, MAD, LHR & DXB and almost 16 hours from 8 am to midnight to explore the Seychelles. Should be a fun.

For those flying SYD/AKL-PPT the time change is interesting with AKL & PPT being separated by the International Date Line. We depart AKL @ 4:30 pm on the 21st and after a 5 hour flight you arrive at about 10:30 pm the night before (on the 20th)

James

Flying for Fun

Close, it jumps to $2.2K. The Y class may be just for his dates or it could be because of the multiple stopovers in the itinerary.

James

andymac66

Has anyone been able to build in a few stopovers and if so, how did you do it? I can do one on the outward and one on the return but anything else longer that 24 hours sends the price rocketing. Lot's of lovely multi stop itineries in J are possible but ideally, I'd like to spend more than a few hours in each place!

rosege

Flying for Fun

Additional stopovers will increase your fare by $100 USD each and possibly more like APD in LHR on BA. Using the multi city add a flight to where you would like the stopover ie HEL would be SCL-HEL with MAD in routing control. The next flight would be HEL-TYO with your desired date after your stopover. Add the number of flights you want stopovers for.

ckn2

Any matrix sample itinerary in J for $2200?

Flying for Fun

Please see my prior post.

James

andymac66

prasadman

First let me thank the OP, James and other FTers for all the suggestions and making it possible for
neophytes like me to play with this :-)

I am working on this three Flight setup in Matrix:
SCL MAD DXB HYD (f la.. IEXEV6GB), 12/10/18 +/- 2days
HYD X? NRT (f la.. IEXEV6GB) 12/15/18 +/- 2 days
ICN X? HKG MAD X+ SCL (f la.. IEXEV6GB) 12/29/18 +/- 2 days

The +/- 2 days causes flights 1 and 2 to become one (less than 24 hours stopover) with a reasonable fare (all business)
Fare 1: Carrier LA IEXEV6GB SCL to TYO CL$952,500
Fare 2: Carrier LA IEXEV6GB SCL to TYO CL$952,500
+ other charges total to CL $2,115,125

The moment I add a > 24 hour stopover in HYD the Fare 1 doubles. i.e, change line 2 to
HYD X? NRT (f la.. IEXEV6GB) 12/20/18 +/- 2 days

the fare becomes
Fare 1: Carrier LA IEXEV6GB SCL to TYO CL$1,697,184
Fare 2: Carrier LA IEXEV6GB SCL to TYO CL$958,500
+ other charges total to CL $2,927,757

I am expecting an increase of $100USD for a stop over. Tried variations
on fare controls (nothing, f la.., f la.scl+tyo ..etc) and it has no affect.

I have played with this for a few days, and trying to understand what's happening. The fare
buckets are very similar in both cases (discounted business I,O,R,X). Is the stopover somehow
causing it to be treated as two separate fares, one full fare + an additional half fare add-on?
Any ideas on how to prove that's really the case or not, and how to bring it down?

Or should I just attribute it to vagaries of ticketing and move on to something else?

honzeek_cz

can you share exact routing, i.e. picture, of the cheap routing? i was going to play with it, but regardless of what try, i get the more expenise 1700 usd fare each, for both legs.

prasadman

The "cheap routing" is 1700US$ each way (CL$2115125 = USD3302). Here is a pic:

prasadman

Forgot to mention this is a slightly different version (no LHR-> DXB) - adding that does not make a big difference in pricing (adds more miles though).