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Old Mar 17, 2015, 9:24 pm
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*Update 28/10/2015*
American Airlines has sent out a batch of emails offering customers two options. None of which earns miles and does not address DOT's old guidelines.

We have yet to here from DOT.

Here is a copy of the letter:

Thank you for your patience in our responding to your complaint regarding the cancellation of a reservation for travel to China which you placed on hold earlier this year.

The reservation you placed on hold was for an extremely low fare offered by American in error, and the mistaken fare was offered for only a few hours. Because the fare was offered in error, we cancelled those reservations, such as yours, that had been made but not ticketed.

In our view, given the fact that the fares American offered for China travel in those few hours were so low that it was obvious they were offered in error (a fact widely acknowledged in the social media posts which prompted many of those who reserved the fares to do so), we were justified in cancelling those reservations that were made but not ticketed, and accordingly will not honor the fare associated with your cancelled reservation. However, we will offer to you two options for reduced rate travel to China, one for business class and one for coach class. The two options are as follows:

Option A – Business Class: We offer you a $1,500 discount on any roundtrip business cabin fare to Shanghai or Beijing.
  • Reservation must be booked by AA and operated entirely by AA (including AA’s regional partners).
  • Travel may not be upgraded, by upgrade certificate, AAdvantage status, or any other means, to a higher class of service.
  • Travel will not be eligible to earn AAdvantage miles or Elite Qualifying Miles or points, and will not count as Elite Qualifying segments in the AAdvantage program.
  • Travel may be ticketed immediately and must be completed within one year of the date of this letter.
  • Travel to PEK or PVG should originate and end in the same U.S. airport(s) as in the original PNR with the same passenger(s) (or subset of passengers) traveling as were listed in the cancelled PNR.
  • Must be ticketed within six weeks of the date of this letter.

Option B – Main Cabin: We offer you the opportunity to receive a $0 fare basis main cabin fare to Shanghai or Beijing, subject to taxes and fees of approximately $450 (varies slightly by routing)..
  • Reservation must be booked by AA for any Q or O class fare to PEK or PVG, and operated entirely by AA (including AA’s regional partners).
  • Travel may not be upgraded, by upgrade certificate, AAdvantage status, or any other means, to a higher class of service.
  • Travel will not be eligible to earn AAdvantage miles or Elite Qualifying Miles or points, and will not count as Elite Qualifying segments in the AAdvantage program.
  • This offer is subject to Q or O class inventory availability for travel outbound starting November 15, 2015.
  • Travel must be completed within one year of the date of this letter.
  • Travel to PEK or PVG should originate and end in the same U.S. airport(s) as in the original PNR with the same passenger(s) (or subset of passengers) traveling as were listed in the cancelled PNR.
  • Must be ticketed within six weeks of the date of this letter.

If you would like to accept one of these offers, please contact American Airlines at the following number to make your flight reservation.



When and where are you traveling? - edit below

March
27-March-2015 -- 30-March-2015 (NYC)-DCA-ORD-PEK heatheresq FIRST (apparently)!
30-March-2015 -- 02-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK transparent
31-March-2015 -- 03-April-2015 ICN-PEK-ORD-DFW timid_trnchcoat, Y only


April
01-April-2015 -- 05-April-2015 DCA-BOS-ORD-PEK-HKG-DFW-DCA thegrailer
02-April-2015 -- 07-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK Soddon
03-April-2015 -- 07-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK jetsarefast2
03-April-2015 -- 10-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK fly2nrt
04-April-2015 -- 07-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK cocobird
07-April-2015 -- 10-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK/PEK-ORD-DCA DiscoverCSG
07-April-2015 -- 16-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK learingtofly2015

08-April-2015 -- 12-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK IWontRegretThis
09-April-2015 -- 13-April-2015 IAD-DFW-PVG/PVG-LAX-IAD Tblack15 Confirmed 2x EQPs; had no elite status
10-April-2015 -- 13-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK andrewwm

11-April-2015 -- 19-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK thyeri
13-April-2015 -- 16-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK bchips
13-April-2015 -- 16-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK cbuckhouse
Confirmed 2x EQPs; had Platinum status

14-April-2015 -- 22-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA fijaircan
15-April-2015 -- 21-April-2015 IAD-DFW-... elliottishere
16-April-2015 -- 21-April-2015 ...-DFW-PVG elliottishere
22-April-2015 -- 27-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEKChucksterace
22-April-2015 -- 01-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEKtn8
26-April-2015 -- 29-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA MarkP24
26-April-2015 -- 29-April-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA FriendlySkies
26-April-2015 -- 01-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA miffsc
26-April-2015 -- 01-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA travelsavant
26-April-2015 -- 03-May-2015 IAD-DFW-ORD-PEK-ORD-MIA-IAD Fredd and Mrs. Fredd
27-April-2015 -- 01-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA MsSTL
27-April-2015 -- 01-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCAlakers6902
27-April-2015 -- 05-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK smikih
27-April-2015 -- 06-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA the_happiness_store
29-April-2015 -- 09-May-2015 IAD-DFW-ORD-PEK-DFW-IAD Brituchenite



May
01-May-2015 -- 14-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PVG-ORD-DCA Novemurr+2
06-May-2015 -- 10-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK edbyu +1
07-May-2015 -- 10-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PVG iadp
08-May-2015 -- 11-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK Golfingboy washeelers747 +2
08-May-2015 -- 11-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-DFW-IAD a330300
08-May-2015 -- 12-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA smoneyxc
08-May-2015 -- 12-May-2015 IAD-DFW-... eap
09-May-2015 -- 12-May-2015 ...-DFW-PEK-DFW-IAD eap
09-May-2015 -- 13-May-2015 ...DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA Bonaventure
10-May-2015 -- 16-May-2015 IAD-DFW-PEK Kidorki
11-May-2015 -- 14-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK medichill
12-May-2015 -- 19-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK party_boy
12-May-2015 -- 23-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA rexid
13-May-2015 -- 24-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-DFW-DCA hoosiereph+3
13-May-2015 -- 20-May-2015 IAD-DFW-... travisair
13-May-2015 -- 16-May-2015 IAD-ORD-PEK Long Train Runnin
14-May-2015 -- 17 May-2015 IAD-DFW-PEK Bigguyinpasadena
14-May-2015 -- 20-May-2015 ...-DFW-PEK travisair
14-May-2015 -- 17-May-2015 IAD-DFW-PEK roastpuff
14-May-2015 -- 17-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK Robert
14-May-2015 -- 18-May-2018 DCA-DFW-PEK Cachris69
14-May-2015 -- 17-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PVG iadp
14-May-2015 -- 26-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA AJollyLife (Birthday on the 23rd! )
15-May-2015 -- 18-May-2015 DCA-DFW-HKG-PEK-HKG-DFW-DCA Bonaventure
15-May-2015 -- 18-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK alexj7
15-May-2015 -- 18-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK andrewwm
15-May-2015 -- 18-May-2105 DCA-ORD-PEK-DFW Madone59
16-May-2015 -- 21-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA davidyyz
16-May-2015 -- 19-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK schwimmair
16-May-2015 -- 24-May 2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-DFW-DCA keepssmile
17-May-2015 -- 21-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK tzvilev
17-May-2015 -- 23-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA tommya
17-May-2015 -- 27-May-2015 IAD-DFW-PEK-DFW-IAD krazieman
18-May-2015 -- 21-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA ben1979
18-May-2015 -- 21-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA DS
18-May-2015 -- 22-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA miffsc
19-May-2015 -- 22-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA Bonaventure
19-May-2015 -- 30-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-DFW-DCA transparent
20-May-2015 -- 26-May-2015 IAD-DFW-... elliottishere
20-May-2015 -- 24-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK thepla
20-May-2015 -- 28-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK cvg-aa
21-May-2015 -- 26-May-2015 ...-DFW-PVG elliottishere
21-May-2015 -- 24-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK/PEK-ORD-DCA awaite01
21-May-2015 -- 24-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK/PEK-ORD-DCA smitty06 and shynate
21-May-2015 -- 01-Jun-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA Tobypie
22-May-2015 -- 25-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK tsz
22-May-2015 -- 25-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PVG PaceLaw2012
22-May-2015 -- 25-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK alexj7
22-May-2015 -- 25-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK onfo
22-May-2015 -- 27-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD ghzhammer
23-May-2015 -- 26-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK jetsarefast2
23-May-2015 -- 31-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA bqkali
23-May-2015 -- 31-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA blootch
23-May-2015 -- 31-May-2015 IAD-DFW-PEK-DFW-IAD FlyingChuck
24-May-2015 -- 27-May-2015 IAD-DFW-PEK northshorepa
24-May-2015 -- 27-May-2018 DCA-DFW-PEK Cachris69 +1
24-May-2015 -- 28-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK Bikeguy+1
24-May-2015 -- 28-May-2015 DCA-DFW-... Server
25-May-2015 -- 28-May-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ICN-DFW-DCA Bonaventure
25-May-2015 -- 28-May-2015 ...-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA Server
25-May-2015 -- 28-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA ben1979
25-May-2015 -- 28-May-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-DFW-IAD bartmas777
26-May-2015 -- 29-May-2015 CMH-DCA-ORD-PEK paramenace
27-May-2015 -- 01-Jun-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-DFW-DCA platinumTA
28-May-2015 -- 01-Jun-2015 IAD-DFW-PEK anchor79
28-May-2015 -- 01-Jun-2015 DCA-DFW-PEK-ORD-DCA flying for gold elite
28-May-2015 -- 01-Jun-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-DFW-DCA cfegeley
29-May-2015 -- 01-Jun-2015 DCA-ORD-PEK-ORD-DCA Mrp Alert
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by Mrgolfer21
And more to your point, as an AA EXP, I am going to start booking my flights through an OTA b/c of what they just did. It costs AA more when those flights are booked that way, so I'm happy to cost them money by booking through an OTA b/c I can't trust them to stand behind their "guarantee" they post online, great deal or not. I really feel that AA is doing more of a disservice by taking this stand with the people that had holds.
I am new to flying AA, as I status matched to AS. This is exactly why I booked this through an OTA, I wanted to ticket it, and thought I may need a 24 hour parachute.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by thepla
That was my question to them. Why do they care what I pay in terms of fare rules, etc. Sort of annoying.

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This would be a big deal because it seemed as though the actual ticketed reservations were being honored and the only ones that weren't were the 24 hour holds.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
There are reports that this has been terminated recently (sometime within the last year).
Can you point to such reports? The close-in hold itself was only terminated less than a year ago.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by dmsdfw
Can you point to such reports? The close-in hold itself was only terminated less than a year ago.
I'll see if I can dig that up. I believe US Airways policy does not include a 24 hour risk free cancellation within 7 days of departure and this is simply aligning to that, but I'm not sure.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by Tblack15
This looks exactly like the response several others received very early and we thought it was a "personal response".

Just a form e-mail... from "Peter" if it carries the same e-mail address.
My bad. Missed those other posts.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:28 am
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Here's the text of my complaint, if anyone would like to re-use it.

Here's the URL to submit: http://www.dot.gov/airconsumer/air-t...t-comment-form

At [TIME] on [DATE], I made a reservation with American
Airlines for an itinerary with the confirmation number
[CONFIRMATION].

As the DOT mandates, AA gave me the option to hold my
reservation at the quoted fare for 24 hours
without payment (AA does not allow for a 24 hour
cancellation period, the other option the DOT provides in
14 CFR 259.6). Rather than purchase outright, I exercised
my right under 14 CFR 259.6 to hold my fare. You can see
my confirmation email in the attachments ([I attached a PDF of my email confirmation]).

At [TIME] on [DATE], approximately XX hours after I
made my reservation, I attempted to purchase the ticket.
Although my confirmation number was live on the AA
website, there was no option to purchase the ticket. I
was instructed to call AA directly for more information.
You can see the page from the website in the attachments
([Here I added screenshots from AA.com]).

At [TIME] on [DATE], approximately XX hours [Ed: Better be less than 24!] after I made my reservation, I called AA to inquire about
purchasing my ticket. I spoke to [REP NAME], a Supervisor
based in [LOCATION], who informed me that AA would not honor
my reservation at the fare offered. She explained that
our conversation would noted in AA's records under my
confirmation number: [CONFIRMATION].

AA has used 14 CFR 259.6 - a consumer protection tool -
to subvert my contractual rights to purchase their
advertised fare. Because AA has opted to provide a 24
hour hold, rather than a 24 hour cancellation policy, I
have limited legal standing in civil court: there was no
purchase. As a result, action by the DOT is my only real
hope for remedying this situation.

Please do not allow AA to flagrantly violate 14 CFR 259.6
without repercussions. Please do not allow them to
leverage 14 CFR 259.6 as a tool to erode their
responsibilities to consumers.

Taking a stand on this issue will provide a strong
statement of support for consumer protection, and 14 CFR
259.6. On the other hand, allowing AA to ignore the
existing regulations will open the playing field for
abuses by AA and other airlines.

Please let me know if I can provide any more information.

Thank you,

[ME]
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
This would be a big deal because it seemed as though the actual ticketed reservations were being honored and the only ones that weren't were the 24 hour holds.
I think the issue here is not related to honoring the fare.. but more about not having access to the booking cabin at the time of ticketing. Will defer to the AA ticketing experts on revenue ticket waitlisting.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:36 am
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Just spoke with an AAgent over the phone. I asked if the ticketed fares for D.C. to Beijing would be honored. She said yes, as far as she knows, adding it's the cancelled ones that aren't honored. By cancelled, I presume she meant the ones on 24 hour hold which AA cancelled.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by Tblack15
This looks exactly like the response several others received very early and we thought it was a "personal response".

Just a form e-mail... from "Peter" if it carries the same e-mail address.
Its the standard auto reply. Everyone gets it I believe. We'll I've gotten it every time I've submitted something via DOT. Except for when my complaint is about issues not touching the US
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by dmsdfw
...They do still however offer a 24-hour cancellation on booking within seven days, which is above and beyond what DOT require.
Originally Posted by cmd320
There are reports that this has been terminated recently (sometime within the last year).
Originally Posted by dmsdfw
Can you point to such reports? The close-in hold itself was only terminated less than a year ago.
Any such reports are inaccurate-- AA still offers 24-hour cancellation on booking within seven days.

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Old Mar 19, 2015, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by izzik
I think the issue here is not related to honoring the fare.. but more about not having access to the booking cabin at the time of ticketing. Will defer to the AA ticketing experts on revenue ticket waitlisting.
At time of booking there must not have been fare class availability. I was told it was now available but not willing to change. Upper management has said to only keep tickets as booked and no changes. I did get mine through Orbitz and it is ticketed and in my account.

I was able to change seats. there were no windows on either long haul and now there are plenty.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by thepla
At time of booking there must not have been fare class availability. I was told it was now available but not willing to change. Upper management has said to only keep tickets as booked and no changes. I did get mine through Orbitz and it is ticketed and in my account.

I was able to change seats. there were no windows on either long haul and now there are plenty.
That happened to me too -- I got Y from ORD-DCA, but it dropped the price from $462 to $406. Totally worth it for a 90 minute RJ flight.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 10:05 am
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Got the standard form reply from the DOT. Let's see how they decide to handle this. Historically AA has never been the most proactive airline when it comes to issuing press releases and notifications.
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 10:06 am
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My reservation is no longer showing on my AA account. It was there there this morning. I had a ticketed reservation for DCA-PEK round trip with a base fare of $40. Has anyone else's disappeared this morning?
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Old Mar 19, 2015, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by IWontRegretThis
Ive gone ahead and booked my connecting flights for this, last thing I want to do is keep the ticket and not be able to get my connectors. Bet your ... if they pull it from me now (I have a $20 base fare DCA>PEK) they will regret it
It looks like they just cancelled my DCA-PEK with $20 base fare. It was on my account earlier this morning and is now missing.
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