Nov 23, 2013, 2:43 pm

FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides

Last edit by: boxo

As indicated in the thread title, this deal is now dead.

How do I manage my itinerary/check my booking/select seats?

Go to http://www.wideroe.no/en/my-trips or https://wftc2-wideroe.e-travel.com/p...E_REQUEST=true
Enter PNR/email address/last name

Note that the displayed receipt will be incorrect ($5 higher than actual) owing to a programming error. The taxes/fees shown includes the original $5 WF booking fee. Do not worry about this; it does not change the amount you are actually billed.

How many miles will I earn on United from my flight?

Here's the UA master page listing airline partners. If you click on a partner logo, you'll see a page containing a chart showing the yield for flights taken on partner metal. (It even says explicitly that it's the metal that counts: "The award miles accrued on codeshare flights are based on the operating carrier and their equivalent fare class.")

MileagePlus (UA) earning charts for

Lufthansa (LH) (K fares earn 0%!)
SWISS (LX) (K fares earn 0%!)
Air Canada (AC)

Will I do better if I credit to another *A carrier instead?

Maybe.

Miles&More (LH, LX,...) earning charts for

United Airlines (UA) (K, L, T fares earn 50%, 25% for flights in 2014)
Lufthansa (LH) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
Swiss (LX) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
Air Canada (AC) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)

Here's the master list of partner earning charts for Aegean (A3) and here's the list for Turkish Airlines (TK).

Are there other FlyerTalk members flying when I am?

Quite possibly! There is a meetup thread on the CommunityBuzz forum. Post if you would like to participate.

Travel reports

Booking/ticketing reports, now largely academic, may be viewed in the wiki history.

Please report below any completed flights and/or difficulties encountered (checking in, boarding, etc.) that appear related to the booking circumstances.

Post #2428 reported arriving in STR on 11/28/13 with no problems.
Post #2670 reported arriving in MXP on 12/1/13 with no problems.
Post #2680 reported traveling EWR-MXP on 12/1/13 with no problems.

[FARE GONE] UA: EWR-Europe from $370 return

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Nov 24, 2013, 9:18 am

#1336

badmaxi

Join Date: Sep 2013

Location: CHO/RIC/WAS

Programs: United Mileage Plus

Posts: 74

Can someone update Wiki for me:

IAD-TLV-IAD booked 11/23 2:06 PM EST - ticketed 11/23 9:33 PM EST
IAD-DBX-IAD booked 11/23 2:13 pm EST - ticketed 11/24 11:11 AM EST

All on 701 stock

Nov 24, 2013, 9:19 am

#1337

dogloverjb

Join Date: Jan 2010

Location: EWR, NJ

Programs: UA 2 MM, UA 1K

Posts: 663

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettmkaufman

where you seeing this?

I just plugged in random dates:
https://www.wideroe.no/book/?l=en&ff...p&rm=WF-EN&r=y

The link isn't working. I put in NYC (but it is LGA so you can use that) and MXP and March 20 outbound, return 3/25. It priced at $512/2. If you View Alternate Dates I'm sure there are more.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:19 am

#1338

reko

Join Date: Nov 2013

Location: EU/US

Programs: UA, DL, M&M, IHG, HH, Best Western, Accor

Posts: 27

Trip to NY.
Booked 2:58pm EST (SAT), ticketed (confirmed on United.com) today (SUN) 10.30am EST.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:19 am

#1339

sbm12

A FlyerTalk Posting Legend

Join Date: Apr 2001

Location: PSM

Posts: 69,232

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankFlyer

Can someone point me to finding the Fare Rules. I don't see it on UA website or the E-ticket.

You won't find it after purchase, at least not from UA. Best suggestion I can offer is to use ITA to recreate your itinerary and fare class and read them there.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:21 am

#1340

B747forever

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: Los Angeles, CA

Posts: 845

So when will we know for sure that we are good to go? Got a pair of tickets to SYD for next August, and want to book some domestic flights.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:21 am

#1341

AutoSlash

Company Representative - AutoSlash and HotelSlash

Join Date: Jun 2006

Location: autoslash.com | hotelslash.com

Posts: 5,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkc715

A bit confused why excluding the fuel surcharge had such a dramatic impact on fares. UA's round trip fares from NYC to DBX are really only $125 each way without the surcharge? For 15 hours of flying and 15,000 award miles (1k)? And the surcharge is $325 each way? Bizarre, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised by airline pricing.

Here's your answer:

Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare 1: Carrier UA KLXRC7NS NYC to DXB (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code K
Covers JFK-IAD (Economy), IAD-DXB (Economy)
$90.00
Fare 2: Carrier UA KLXRC7NS DXB to NYC (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code K
Covers DXB-IAD (Economy), IAD-LGA (Economy)
$90.00
United Arab Emirates International Advanced Passenger Information (API) Fee (ZR) $1.40
UA YQ surcharge (YQ) $634.00
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.20
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $7.50
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $13.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) $5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY) $7.00
US Customs Fee (YC) $5.50
United Arab Emirates Passenger Service Charge (AE) $20.40
United Arab Emirates Security and Safety Fee (TP) $1.40
US International Arrival Tax (US) $17.20

Subtotal per passenger $910.10
Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $910.10
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.

As you can see, base fare is only $180 plus taxes and fees while YQ is $634. Back out YQ, and you have yourself quite a deal!

Nov 24, 2013, 9:23 am

#1342

TheBOSman

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: Austin, Texas

Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!

Posts: 26,062

Quote:

Originally Posted by rankourabu

Actually, it worked great on biz fares. Some have $960 of YQ attached to them. $3000 UA# on LH metal, J fares were had for $2000

Hehehe I thought so. I checked some of those yesterday on ITA (I don't want to fly UA in coach almost no matter how cheap

and didn't want to further add to the wideroe traffic load if I didn't have to) and there were some juicy YQs out there. None quite good enough to make me want to jump though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbm12

Absolutely. There are TATL base fares as low as $10 from time to time. With the advent of YQ the airlines opened themselves up to this sort of scenario.

^ Completely true.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:24 am

#1343

dogloverjb

Join Date: Jan 2010

Location: EWR, NJ

Programs: UA 2 MM, UA 1K

Posts: 663

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmaxi

Can someone update Wiki for me:

IAD-TLV-IAD booked 11/23 2:06 PM EST - ticketed 11/23 9:33 PM EST
IAD-DBX-IAD booked 11/23 2:13 pm EST - ticketed 11/24 11:11 AM EST

All on 701 stock

Done!

Nov 24, 2013, 9:24 am

#1344

jesslonguf

Join Date: May 2010

Posts: 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettmkaufman

What dates did you wind up with working?

Tuesday, 3/11 - Wednesday, 3/19

There are other dates available too. I played around in the fare calendar.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:24 am

#1345

Majuki

Join Date: Jul 2009

Location: SJC

Programs: AA, AS, Marriott

Posts: 6,061

Quote:

Originally Posted by chollie

Based on what others have posted and my own experience (three tickets, two ticketed), I think there are multiple variables at play here.

Credit card companies - some seemed to be processing more quickly/with fewer problems than others.

Carrier - some outright cancellations with a message about a particular carrier not being covered. The two tickets that went through for me are UA metal; the outstanding one is a mix of UA and TK.

Early on, it seemed to me that perhaps some destinations were getting processed more quickly than others, which made no sense. Now I'm wondering if it was actually the carriers involved.

Of the two res that got ticketed three hours ago, I've only received one email.

Thanks, chollie! My variables were:

1) Card was Chase - I haven't gotten any notification, and I am all over the map with my cards that I've not gotten a decline from them in over 5 years.

2) Carrier was LH (UA codeshare) on the outbound EWR-FRA-BCN. UA marketed and operated flight on the return BCN-EWR.

3) R/t between EWR and BCN around Presidents' Day weekend, but you said city pairs don't seem to be the factors.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:25 am

#1346

rankourabu

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Join Date: Jan 2002

Location: Canada

Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL

Posts: 23,305

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbm12

Absolutely. There are TATL base fares as low as $10 from time to time. With the advent of YQ the airlines opened themselves up to this sort of scenario.

Exactly, we've even seen $0.50 fares on transatlantics this year (IB/TK)

If airlines want to play the fuel surcharge scam, they get burned sometimes.

No sympathy.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:27 am

#1347

chollie

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Posts: 41,681

Quote:

Originally Posted by B747forever

So when will we know for sure that we are good to go? Got a pair of tickets to SYD for next August, and want to book some domestic flights.

Fortunately, you have plenty of time. Even in the unlikely (but possible) event that there's pushback about these tickets, you can afford to relax for at least a week.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:28 am

#1348

luffy971

Join Date: Jan 2013

Location: Paris

Programs: EY gold, Hilton gold, spg gold, A3 gold

Posts: 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by rankourabu

If airlines want to play the fuel surcharge scam, they get burned sometimes.

No sympathy.

Nov 24, 2013, 9:28 am

#1349

ejh25

Join Date: May 2009

Location: DCA

Programs: US Chairman, Marriott Platinum, PCR Platinum, and SPG Gold

Posts: 1,244

I see it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by luffy971

You're wrong !

New York to Milan
Monday, March 24, 2014

Departure: 15:35 New York, USA - La Guardia, terminal B
Arrival: 17:06 Montreal, Canada - Pierre E. Trudeau International
Airline: Air Canada AC7459
Aircraft: Embraer 175
Fare type: Economy Restricted
Baggage: 1 piece(s) per traveller

Change of plane required. Time between flights : 1:44.
Monday, March 24, 2014

Departure: 18:50 Montreal, Canada - Pierre E. Trudeau International
Arrival: 07:00 +1 day(s) Frankfurt, Germany - Frankfurt International, terminal 1
Airline: Air Canada AC874
Aircraft: Boeing 777-300ER
Fare type: Economy Restricted
Baggage: 1 piece(s) per traveller

Change of plane required. Time between flights : 6:10.
Tuesday, March 25, 2014

Departure: 13:10 Frankfurt, Germany - Frankfurt International, terminal 1
Arrival: 14:20 Milan, Italy - Malpensa, terminal 1
Airline: Air Canada AC9308
Aircraft: Airbus Industrie A320-100/200
Operated by Lufthansa
Fare type: Economy Restricted
Baggage: 1 piece(s) per traveller
Milan to New York
Monday, March 31, 2014

Departure: 06:50 Milan, Italy - Malpensa, terminal 1
Arrival: 08:15 Frankfurt, Germany - Frankfurt International, terminal 1
Airline: Air Canada AC9157
Aircraft: Airbus Industrie A321
Operated by Lufthansa
Fare type: Economy Restricted
Baggage: 1 piece(s) per traveller

Change of plane required. Time between flights : 4:45.
Monday, March 31, 2014

Departure: 13:00 Frankfurt, Germany - Frankfurt International, terminal 1
Arrival: 15:10 Ottawa, Canada - Macdonald-Cartier International
Airline: Air Canada AC839
Aircraft: Boeing 767-300/300ER
Fare type: Economy Restricted
Baggage: 1 piece(s) per traveller

Change of plane required. Time between flights : 3:10.
Monday, March 31, 2014

Departure: 18:20 Ottawa, Canada - Macdonald-Cartier International
Arrival: 19:37 New York, USA - La Guardia, terminal B
Airline: Air Canada AC7734
Aircraft: Canadair Regional Jet
Fare type: Economy Restricted
Baggage: 1 piece(s) per traveller
Legend:
EUR = Euro

Price
Passengers Flights Taxes Booking fee
1 adult(s) x (26.00 + 161.78 + 4.00) = 191.78 EUR
Total for all passengers 191.78 EUR

Nov 24, 2013, 9:29 am

#1350

vanaema78

Join Date: Nov 2013

Location: TLL

Programs: LuxExpress VIP

Posts: 220

Any tips on the Air Canada and Swiss schemes?
Would love to end up in Northern America from Northern Europe, but can't really find anything cheaper than usual.