Originally Posted by CDKing

With MR's you book now and think later.

Originally Posted by colpuck

My LX (non-US) ticket is still active. I don't really expect it to stay active, but it is as of right now.

Originally Posted by yerffej201

What I meant to say is you don't book mistake fares with the intent to refund.

Originally Posted by *A Flyer

Not necessarily but changing the ticket would result in a fare recalculation and that would be ugly.

Originally Posted by holtju2

Fully flexible means that there likely no fees for cancelling the ticket. Fully flexible doesn't mean that there wouldn't be HIP checks if you are tying to switch transits to stopovers.

You really shouldn't be booking tickets such as these if you are lacking the most basic knowledge of these issues. And these have been discussed ad nauseam.

Originally Posted by Wozza2404

I just want to chime in here and give a few answers, as there to be quite a few people on here who are new to these fares this time around.

1) These fares are being flown every day. In fact, on some flights at the minute there can be half a dozen FTers in the KE F cabin on the same flight as so many tickets from round 1 and 2 were purchased.

2) The staff at RGN are aware of these tickets. They will not be surprised when you present yourself for boarding.

3) You can transit in RGN, provided you're flying AAA-RGN-CCC (please note that AAA-RGN-AAA is NOT a transit and you may well be denied boarding without a visa.
Despite the fact you CAN transit, it doesn't mean you should. RGN is not set up for transit, and it involves human intervention, which is what you want to avoid wherever possible on these fares. Getting a visa is pretty simple and you should get one to avoid all doubt. Visa on arrival is currently only available for business travellers. You can use a visa company (like Myanmar Visa), who will meet you off your inbound flight, but you may have an issue convincing whichever carrier is taking you to RGN to let you on without a proper visa. If you are doing multiple RGN flights in a tight timeframe, however, this option is the best one.
The visa situation is changing daily, so just because this is correct today doesn't mean it will be correct next week.

4) Most of the airlines in round 3 are the same as those in rounds 1 and 2, so almost all will have seen these tickets before. SQ may be the exception, but as I don't think any tickets are on SQ stock, they shouldn't be too bothered about it as they will still be getting paid from whichever airline's stock the ticket is on.

5) You will not be able to change these tickets before you travel. There have been cases where a dumb agent has been convinced to make a change, but generally you're going to be told (correctly) that any changes (including adding stopovers) will trigger a reprice of the fare. Ordinarily this will not change the fare on a fully flex F ticket, as it's already a full price ticket, but with these fares the recalculation will be done at the current fare and not the historical fare (there's a grey area here, but this is why the airlines are doing and you won't change that) so you'll be presented with a fare difference of $10k+.
Once you have flown the first leg of the fare, the rules apply without a reprice. Adding stopover and changing flights should be possible, but, as always with these fares, don't bank on it. People have reported success changing these fares once they have flown out of RGN but people have also reporting coming up against militant agents who simply refuse. One FTer reported being told "you're flying RTW for the cost of a bus ticket, don't call us again" before being hung up on.

6) Airlines are scared of DOT enforcement. The best example of this is from round 1 where KE cancelled all fares which involved travel in their F suites. People made DOT complaints and within a week the OTAs were contacting pax to ask if they'd like the fare reinstating at the original price paid. KE would rather have their F suites half full of FTers for the best part of a year than pay DOT fines.
Based on KE's history with mistake fares and cancelling them even up to a week before travel with nothing more than a "go eff yourself", this is a significant step. Other airlines have taken a similar stance; DL, who also have a less than savoury history with fares like these, didn't cancel a single ticket on their stock even in round one. Such is their fear of the DOT fines.

7) EU compensation laws are largely irrelevant. Even if you were entitled to 600€ if denied boarding, you'd struggle to get yourself home with that money. That said, your odds of being denied boarding once you have flown the first segment are remote, and it hasn't happened (AFAIK) to any of the FTers flying round 1 and 2 fares.

8) Even fares which do not touch the US are being flown. RGN-JNB via various routes were available, and has been flown hundreds of times. This doesn't mean that all non-US fares will be honoured, just that there is a precedent for them being flown.

As someone who has flown one of the round 1 fares, and now has 4 more upcoming trips, I feel that I know enough about this to comment. I've also followed the original thread about round 1 and 2 fares from post #1, so a lot of these questions have been answered there.
Hopefully this will clear up a lot of the questions being asked by those who are new to these fares.

EDIT: These are, mostly, fully flex F fares. They are therefore fully refundable. Any problems with your OTA just ask them to look at the fare code. They CAN, however, charge you their own cancellation fees, which can vary from anywhere between £0 and £200, depending on the OTA. This will be in their T&Cs.

Originally Posted by Spiff

FF award to SIN, BKK, ...

Originally Posted by SanDiego1K

My tickets were issued by TL on SQ stock. The only pending charges I have on my credit card are from TL. SQ has yet to charge. Given that the tickets were issued more than 24 hours ago, I view this as a bad sign.

Originally Posted by Spiff

When it comes to Air Asia, do yourself a favor: fly someone else.

Originally Posted by skywalkerLAX

What I don't get in my head is how people can consider flying in Y all the way to RGN just to fly F back to YUL. But I guess to each his own.

Originally Posted by rankourabu

Sure, for most people it made absolutely no sense to buy these tickets, yet some bought multiples.

Originally Posted by colpuck

My LX (non-US) ticket is still active. I don't really expect it to stay active, but it is as of right now.

Originally Posted by HansGolden

Why not all the way to RGN? StarAlliance has four (almost 5 with EVA) airlines into RGN, SkyTeam has four, and OneWorld will have one (MH) in Q1 2013.

Originally Posted by HansGolden

Obviously opinion-based, but IME they are quite a pleasant experience for an LCC--really on par with a US domestic Y class as a kettle.

Originally Posted by CDKing

I might go on both of mine and I might not. I know mine are refundable so I have 8 month to decide if I'm going or not (if they are not cancelled by the OTA before). Were you referring to people with zero intent?

Obviously the best rule is to not spend more than your willing to lose but if its refundable, why not book far out in advance and cancel if it doesn't work out? I'm sure all parties involved will be very aware of the situation long before i ever decide what I'm going to do

Originally Posted by lubo_lou

I have a F ticket on Lx stock and operated by Lx and I expect LX will honor it. Keeping these types of tickets will not cost them much as F is rarely filled with revenue passengers anyway. Not keeping it might mean a bad publicity for the company especially after 2 similar errors this year. I keep my hope high!

Originally Posted by lubo_lou

I have a F ticket on Lx stock and operated by Lx and I expect LX will honor it. Keeping these types of tickets will not cost them much as F is rarely filled with revenue passengers anyway. Not keeping it might mean a bad publicity for the company especially after 2 similar errors this year. I keep my hope high!

Originally Posted by markus_see

RGN-KUL 1215-1630 MH
KUL-SIN 1930-2025 MH
SIN-FRA 2355-0625+1 SQ
FRA-ZRH 0950-1025 LX
ZRH-YUL 1250-1515 LX

All I need is they issue boarding pass to me until FRA.
Second passport waiting for me in EU?? Hmmmm..... this is tricky. Do u think they will fall for that? Risky for me.

My ticket is issued by SQ.

I was hoping, maybe while transit in SIN (provided if MH issue me boarding passes from RGN-KUL-SIN) I make date change for FRA-ZRH-YUL leg with SQ since its "their ticket". I dont mind if they forfeit that LX sector too.

Please advise. Thanks!

Originally Posted by HansGolden

...If you were issued ticket numbers, you're golden. Often with tickets, there will be an initial authorization which will show on your CC if you have a bank with real-time info (like Chase), but then the charge might totally disappear for a few days before it re-appears as a charge (rather than simply an authorization). That is SOP with regular tickets and I wouldn't worry if that's the pattern on this one

Originally Posted by TallestHotelInJapan

Did you not read what I wrote: I got one out of five tickets cancelled! The ticket doesn't mean you are safe!

Originally Posted by AA_EXP09

Did you let the DOT know?

Originally Posted by lubo_lou

I have a F ticket on Lx stock and operated by Lx and I expect LX will honor it. Keeping these types of tickets will not cost them much as F is rarely filled with revenue passengers anyway. Not keeping it might mean a bad publicity for the company especially after 2 similar errors this year. I keep my hope high!