AC mileage run for a newbie!
#1
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AC mileage run for a newbie!
Hi there! I've been an Aeroplan member for 11 years, but only been collecting them seriously for a year or so.
This year, I have 30,531 status miles and 25 segments. This means (I think) that for 2K7, I'll have Prestige status, (25,000 miles or 25 segments). My thought now is: Elite status is 35,000 miles or 35 segments--so if I get 4500 odd status miles, I can get Elite for 2K7, or in the alternative, 10 more segments. The great thing is being based out of YXU, any YXU-YYZ flight is automatically 500 status miles and one segment, regardless of the actual length of the flight...so I guess I could do 5 return flights from YXU to YYZ...
As mentioned, I'm based out of YXU, and budget is an issue--are the perks associated with Elite worth me trying to accumulate another 5000 miles or 10 segments before December 31st? I'll likely have to fund this myself, so I'll want to keep this as cheap as possible...I was thinking off-hand, I could do two return flights from YXU to Sarnia (YXU-YYZ-Sarnia, so 4 segments, 2000 miles per trip) and then one return flight from YXU to YYZ, 2 segments, 1000 miles per trip)...any swankier way to get the miles for about the same price?
THANKS ALL!!!
a4racer
This year, I have 30,531 status miles and 25 segments. This means (I think) that for 2K7, I'll have Prestige status, (25,000 miles or 25 segments). My thought now is: Elite status is 35,000 miles or 35 segments--so if I get 4500 odd status miles, I can get Elite for 2K7, or in the alternative, 10 more segments. The great thing is being based out of YXU, any YXU-YYZ flight is automatically 500 status miles and one segment, regardless of the actual length of the flight...so I guess I could do 5 return flights from YXU to YYZ...
As mentioned, I'm based out of YXU, and budget is an issue--are the perks associated with Elite worth me trying to accumulate another 5000 miles or 10 segments before December 31st? I'll likely have to fund this myself, so I'll want to keep this as cheap as possible...I was thinking off-hand, I could do two return flights from YXU to Sarnia (YXU-YYZ-Sarnia, so 4 segments, 2000 miles per trip) and then one return flight from YXU to YYZ, 2 segments, 1000 miles per trip)...any swankier way to get the miles for about the same price?
THANKS ALL!!!
a4racer
#2
Join Date: Mar 2005
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YYZ-DCA offers some seriously great 3-segment routings (ie: YYZ-YUL-YOW-DCA-YOW-YUL-YYZ) usually at the same price as YYZ-DCA. (think 150-200$ one way, or less).
So, if you could add your London leg onto that, you'd be looking at 4k miles due to the minimums.
There are probably other equally high-segment routings avail.
So, if you could add your London leg onto that, you'd be looking at 4k miles due to the minimums.
There are probably other equally high-segment routings avail.
#6
Join Date: Feb 2002
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You cheapest bet is to drive to Detroit and do a transcon on United or US Airways. Here is an example with a same day turnaround to avoid a hotel in California: (also if you leave early in the Morning from Detroit you can avoid the red-eye on the way back) The cost for this one is $231 USD (via Orbitz) or about $265 CDN. You'd pay more than that for one of the Sarnia flights!
Monday, December 4, 2006 Leave
United Airlines 701 Economy 60% on time Airbus A319 3hr 13min 1142 miles
Depart: 3:27pm
afternoon Detroit, MI
Detroit Wayne County (DTW) 2+ stops
Arrive: 4:40pm
afternoon Denver, CO
Denver International (DEN)
Change planes. Time between flights: 0hr 40min
United Airlines 209 Economy 70% on time Boeing 757 2hr 28min 845 miles
Depart: 5:20pm
evening Denver, CO
Denver International (DEN)
Arrive: 6:48pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Change planes. Time between flights: 1hr 12min
United Airlines 6078 Operated by: UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Economy Embraer 120 Brasilia Turboprop 46min 43 miles
Depart: 8:00pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Arrive: 8:46pm
evening Santa Ana, CA
Santa Ana John Wayne (SNA)
Total duration: 8hr 19min Total miles: 2030 miles
Monday, December 4, 2006 Return
United Airlines 6078 Operated by: UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Economy Embraer 120 Brasilia Turboprop 33min 43 miles
Depart: 9:27pm
evening Santa Ana, CA
Santa Ana John Wayne (SNA) 2+ stops
Arrive: 10:00pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Change planes. Time between flights: 1hr 45min
United Airlines 128 Economy 80% on time Airbus A320 3hr 53min 1746 miles
Depart: 11:45pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Arrive: 5:38am
morning Chicago, IL
Chicago O'Hare International (ORD)
Change planes. Time between flights: 1hr 57min
United Airlines 434 Economy 90% on time Airbus A319 1hr 14min 237 miles
Depart: 7:35am
morning Chicago, IL
Chicago O'Hare International (ORD)
Arrive: 9:49am
morning Detroit, MI
Detroit Wayne County (DTW)
Monday, December 4, 2006 Leave
United Airlines 701 Economy 60% on time Airbus A319 3hr 13min 1142 miles
Depart: 3:27pm
afternoon Detroit, MI
Detroit Wayne County (DTW) 2+ stops
Arrive: 4:40pm
afternoon Denver, CO
Denver International (DEN)
Change planes. Time between flights: 0hr 40min
United Airlines 209 Economy 70% on time Boeing 757 2hr 28min 845 miles
Depart: 5:20pm
evening Denver, CO
Denver International (DEN)
Arrive: 6:48pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Change planes. Time between flights: 1hr 12min
United Airlines 6078 Operated by: UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Economy Embraer 120 Brasilia Turboprop 46min 43 miles
Depart: 8:00pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Arrive: 8:46pm
evening Santa Ana, CA
Santa Ana John Wayne (SNA)
Total duration: 8hr 19min Total miles: 2030 miles
Monday, December 4, 2006 Return
United Airlines 6078 Operated by: UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Economy Embraer 120 Brasilia Turboprop 33min 43 miles
Depart: 9:27pm
evening Santa Ana, CA
Santa Ana John Wayne (SNA) 2+ stops
Arrive: 10:00pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Change planes. Time between flights: 1hr 45min
United Airlines 128 Economy 80% on time Airbus A320 3hr 53min 1746 miles
Depart: 11:45pm
evening Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles International (LAX)
Arrive: 5:38am
morning Chicago, IL
Chicago O'Hare International (ORD)
Change planes. Time between flights: 1hr 57min
United Airlines 434 Economy 90% on time Airbus A319 1hr 14min 237 miles
Depart: 7:35am
morning Chicago, IL
Chicago O'Hare International (ORD)
Arrive: 9:49am
morning Detroit, MI
Detroit Wayne County (DTW)
#8
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Additional factor in my mileage run, AND a dumb question...
I also have a $200 travel voucher from AC for a voluntary bump on a YYZ-YOW flight earlier this month, so that will help, provided I fly on AC metal...
I didn't know that flights on AC partners (Star Alliance) count at full pop towards Aeroplan points...
I didn't know that flights on AC partners (Star Alliance) count at full pop towards Aeroplan points...
Last edited by a4racer; Oct 31, 2006 at 8:27 am
#9
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Originally Posted by a4racer
I also have a $200 travel voucher from AC for a voluntary bump on a YYZ-YOW flight earlier this month, so that will help, provided I fly on AC metal...
I didn't know that flights on AC partners (Star Alliance) count at full pop towards Aeroplan points...
I didn't know that flights on AC partners (Star Alliance) count at full pop towards Aeroplan points...
YXU - YYZ
YYZ - IAD/ORD (AC op by UA)
IAD/ORD - SFO (AC op by UA)
SFO-LAX/LAS/SNA/SAN/CLD/PHX/TUS - any city in AZ, CA, NV (AC op by UA)
repeat the same routing in reverse - you might have to loose a segment on the outbound or return, but still will do quite well on the miles. You can use UA.com, AC.com and the downloadable star alliance around the world program (star-alliance.com) to get the flight numbers and then have AC phone reservations book it.
#10
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Cheapest probably is to fly to Detroit or Buffalo & Use/Save the voucher for next year.
Then you've got the status & the voucher.
Some people trying to find low-fares compare routes on cities flown by Southwest, but ticketed/flown on thier chosen airline.
Then you've got the status & the voucher.
Some people trying to find low-fares compare routes on cities flown by Southwest, but ticketed/flown on thier chosen airline.
#11
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Originally Posted by a4racer
I also have a $200 travel voucher from AC for a voluntary bump on a YYZ-YOW flight earlier this month, so that will help, provided I fly on AC metal...
I didn't know that flights on AC partners (Star Alliance) count at full pop towards Aeroplan points...
I didn't know that flights on AC partners (Star Alliance) count at full pop towards Aeroplan points...
Perhaps it's my adversion to the short hop runs, but I would suggest something like LHR (the Other London) which AC has dirt cheap AND has a double bonus mile promo on at the moment. Please note that this isn't double Q miles, but double the regular base miles.
Having just checked, AC has LHR from YXU for CAD$279 OW + tax 4-6 Nov. in Leisure class, which earns full AC AP miles. According to GCM, the 8112 Q miles you'd earn would be topped up by 8112 bonus miles for CAD$866.88 all in, providing of course you register for the linked AP promo.
Keep in mind that two Sarnia runs add up to approx CAD$680 incl tax, so for only a few hundred more you could rack up an extra 12K miles, which isn't a bad deal.
Just a thought...
Last edited by tcook052; Oct 31, 2006 at 9:15 am
#12
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Hmm...
Originally Posted by tcook052
Not all *A partners, grasshopper, only some like UA.
Perhaps it's my adversion to the short hop runs, but I would suggest something like LHR (the Other London) which AC has dirt cheap AND has a double bonus mile promo on at the moment. Please note that this isn't double Q miles, but double the regular base miles.
Having just checked, AC has LHR from YXU for CAD$279 OW + tax 4-6 Nov. in Leisure class, which earns full AC AP miles. According to GCM, the 8112 Q miles you'd earn would be topped up by 8112 bonus miles for CAD$866.88 all in, providing of course you register for the linked AP promo.
Keep in mind that two Sarnia runs add up to approx CAD$680 incl tax, so for only a few hundred more you could rack up an extra 12K miles, which isn't a bad deal.
Just a thought...
Perhaps it's my adversion to the short hop runs, but I would suggest something like LHR (the Other London) which AC has dirt cheap AND has a double bonus mile promo on at the moment. Please note that this isn't double Q miles, but double the regular base miles.
Having just checked, AC has LHR from YXU for CAD$279 OW + tax 4-6 Nov. in Leisure class, which earns full AC AP miles. According to GCM, the 8112 Q miles you'd earn would be topped up by 8112 bonus miles for CAD$866.88 all in, providing of course you register for the linked AP promo.
Keep in mind that two Sarnia runs add up to approx CAD$680 incl tax, so for only a few hundred more you could rack up an extra 12K miles, which isn't a bad deal.
Just a thought...
#13
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Originally Posted by a4racer
So, if I did the above, would the extra 12K miles not used in qualifying for 2K7 be able to be carried over for 2K8, or is it a clean slate, ie: I'd have to qualify based on Jan 1. 2007 to December 31. 2007?
I'm intrigued by this possibility--using the $200 travel voucher, I'll spend $666.88 all in, and get about 16,000 miles (are they all status miles?), get my Elite status for 2K7, and still have 16,000 miles to use for other flights...sounds pretty good--just have to deal with a 7 hour flight (that said, I just did a YXU-YYZ-YVR-KIX and a PEK-YVR-YYZ-YXU this month!)
That's my suggestion and I'm sticking to it.
#14
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This will work out of YYZ...from Galileo
Code:
ATFQ PRICING MILEAGES AIRPORT YYZ YHZ 802 YHZ YOW 595 YOW LHR 3332 LHR YYZ 3556 -------- TOTAL AIR MILES: 8285
Code:
1 AC 604A 25NOV YYZYHZ 0810 1110 * SA 2 AC8607A 25NOV YHZYOW 1555 1648 * SA OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ 3 AC 888A 25NOV YOWLHR 1905 0700 +* SA/SU 4 AC 869A 26NOV LHRYYZ 0900 1215 * SU
Code:
YTO AC X/YHZ AC X/YOW AC LON 228.88A0MSLWFL AC YTO 228.88A0MSLWFL NUC457.76END ROE1.10974 FARE CAD 508.00 TAX 17.00CA TAX 15.00SQ TAX 42.50GB TAX 27.60UB TAX 0.90XG TAX 188.00YQ TOT CAD 799.00
There is a later flight from YYZ to YHZ, but with only 25 minutes between flights, a late departure out of Pearson would be a dealkiller because it would be an illegal connection; you could book it but the risk is all yours.
#15
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Thanks everyone!
On the cusp of signing up for that great Detroit - LAX - John Wayne trip, I got word that I'm required to fly out to Vancouver on business...our company has a policy that, although we fly Tango Plus (Economy) most of the time, we are able to bump up to Executive First (pseudo-bizclass) for redeyes. So, I'll be flying out Tango Plus, and back Exec. First. That will give me, according to webflyer's mile marker (with Aeroplan's 500 mile minimum, and 50% Q mile upgrade for Exec), 2580 miles on the outbound, and 3660 miles on the inbound (no exec. on YYZ-YXU leg), which should give me 6240 Q-miles on the trip, or 36,771 Q miles for 2K6, bumping me up to Elite for 2K7!
Again, thank for all the help and suggestions--I'll DEFINITELY need your help to keep my Elite status for 2K7, I anticipate less business travel next year...
Again, thank for all the help and suggestions--I'll DEFINITELY need your help to keep my Elite status for 2K7, I anticipate less business travel next year...