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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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Old Jun 10, 2018, 8:11 pm
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Is there any similar deal from ORD this year? Looks like all from west coast and for 2019? Thanks.

Originally Posted by FLA77
Dropping the last leg or two shouldn't matter at all. I have done it in the past and never thought twice about it. Unless of course, you're planning to ask for a refund for the dropped leg(s) :-)

My concern has always been: what if, say your final destination is LAS, and you book a separate ticket from SFO to LAS, either before or after your SFO-YUL flight. Any chance the system picks up the scheduling conflict and maybe cancel one of both flights?
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:33 am
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For anyone wondering, I was able to find a wonderful agent who was able to actually split the Island Hopper into six independent segments, allowing me to choose different seats for each leg (and Economy Plus only for MAJ-HNL at a reduced price) and earn miles for each separate leg. So this is actually possible for someone willing to do it (the last agent I spoke to was 100% positive that this was impossible due to "too many legs for the ticket").

For HKG-PEK, I ended up booking an award flight on BR/CA with one night layover in TPE
That, and my positionning flights from YUL to LAX means I now have 18 legs for this trip. Should be quite an adventure!
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by X31
For anyone wondering, I was able to find a wonderful agent who was able to actually split the Island Hopper into six independent segments, allowing me to choose different seats for each leg (and Economy Plus only for MAJ-HNL at a reduced price) and earn miles for each separate leg. So this is actually possible for someone willing to do it (the last agent I spoke to was 100% positive that this was impossible due to "too many legs for the ticket").

For HKG-PEK, I ended up booking an award flight on BR/CA with one night layover in TPE
That, and my positionning flights from YUL to LAX means I now have 18 legs for this trip. Should be quite an adventure!
YES, I am wondering! What exactly is your itinerary (aside from IH flights). How did HKG-TPE-PEK fit into this itinerary? Did you end up skipping any flights? And, how did you include repositioning YUL-LAX flights into same ticketed PNR? Safe travels.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by X31
For anyone wondering, I was able to find a wonderful agent who was able to actually split the Island Hopper into six independent segments, allowing me to choose different seats for each leg (and Economy Plus only for MAJ-HNL at a reduced price) and earn miles for each separate leg. So this is actually possible for someone willing to do it (the last agent I spoke to was 100% positive that this was impossible due to "too many legs for the ticket").

For HKG-PEK, I ended up booking an award flight on BR/CA with one night layover in TPE
That, and my positionning flights from YUL to LAX means I now have 18 legs for this trip. Should be quite an adventure!
When you say agent, do you mean a United Airlines CSR ???

Like a CSR that would message RM to look at this amazing fare ???
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by cagcag
YES, I am wondering! What exactly is your itinerary (aside from IH flights). How did HKG-TPE-PEK fit into this itinerary? Did you end up skipping any flights? And, how did you include repositioning YUL-LAX flights into same ticketed PNR? Safe travels.
I had a bit of luck: I booked a separate positionning YOW-EWR-DEN-LAX originally, since YOW is quite near YUL, for about 200 CAD. I figured what the hell, let's enjoy a day in LAX before flying.
Turns out that the flight YOW-EWR was changed this friday and it made me misconnect, so I was able to get an agent to change it to YUL-EWR-DEN-LAX for free.

It's on a different PNR and I don't have to skip any flight, I end up flying from and to YUL.

For HKG-TPE-PEK, I used 12 500 miles with SQ (+ 100 SGD of taxes) and I took BR872 on Feb. 28 and CA186 on March 1st so that I could have a night in Taipei and a direct flight to Beijing (so that I can enjoy the 144h TWOV).
Even if it is not listed on their website, I was able to get them to ticket this as <24h connecting time is considered a layover and not a stopover (so it's still a one-way fare).

Final itinerary:
https://bit.ly/2l3OJQb (about 200 CAD)
Feb. 25 : YUL-EWR
Feb. 25 : EWR-DEN
Feb. 25 : DEN-LAX

https://bit.ly/2Jvi5pj (about 450 CAD)
Feb. 27 : LAX-HND
Feb. 28 : HND-HKG

https://bit.ly/2sPIIeq (12 500 miles + 100 SGD in tax)
Feb. 28 : HKG-TPE
Mar. 1 : TPE-PEK

https://bit.ly/2Jvi5pj
Mar. 3 : PEK-HND
Mar. 3 : NRT-GUM
Mar. 4 : GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-KWA-MAJ-HNL (all separated)
Mar. 4 : HNL-DEN
Mar. 5 : DEN-IAD
Mar. 5 : IAD-YUL

Obviously with all the changes, the prices shown on Google Flights right now are not even near what I actually paid

Originally Posted by carlitos
When you say agent, do you mean a United Airlines CSR ???

Like a CSR that would message RM to look at this amazing fare ???
Yup, a CSR on the phone.
This deal is more than a year old now, I think I did five of these runs, had my share of schedule changes and IRROPS and this must be about the 10th time I've called about one of these, they don't really care.

I had one or two CSR laughing and saying "that is a very cheap fare you got", but nothing happened
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by X31
Yup, a CSR on the phone.
This deal is more than a year old now, I think I did five of these runs, had my share of schedule changes and IRROPS and this must be about the 10th time I've called about one of these, they don't really care.

I had one or two CSR laughing and saying "that is a very cheap fare you got", but nothing happened
I'm just surprised you got an agent willing or able to split the hopper segments. I've failed each and everytime I've tried that. Do you have a way with words?
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
I'm just surprised you got an agent willing or able to split the hopper segments. I've failed each and everytime I've tried that. Do you have a way with words?
Perhaps he speaks nice "like wind song"... (for those who remember M*A*S*H)

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Old Jun 12, 2018, 3:37 pm
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Still confused

I did this 4 times last year, yet I was never able to coordinate an itinerary like you seemed to have gotten. So, essentially it was from YUL to HKG open jaw PEK back to Canada, with HKG-TPE-PEK getting you from HKG to PEK? Interesting routing; I thought this itinerary was from USA or CANADA into China then returning from China to USA or Canada. How much was your final fare and did it book into G fare bucket? Thanks
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by cagcag
I did this 4 times last year, yet I was never able to coordinate an itinerary like you seemed to have gotten. So, essentially it was from YUL to HKG open jaw PEK back to Canada, with HKG-TPE-PEK getting you from HKG to PEK? Interesting routing; I thought this itinerary was from USA or CANADA into China then returning from China to USA or Canada. How much was your final fare and did it book into G fare bucket? Thanks
The fare was 257 CAD (base fare) + 200 CAD (taxes) = 457 CAD for LAX-HKG [open-jaw] PEK-YUL.
LAX-HKG is booked into K bucket (NH codeshare flights) and PEK-YUL into G (United-operated flights).

I bought YUL-LAX (G-class) separately on a different PNR (actually I paid for YOW-LAX but ended up with YUL-LAX because of a schedule change).
Never had the occasion to reduce the price of this deal by doing West Coast-HKG instead of East Coast-China (HGH, etc.) neither. It is indeed quite strange that it works.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by X31
The fare was 257 CAD (base fare) + 200 CAD (taxes) = 457 CAD for LAX-HKG [open-jaw] PEK-YUL.
LAX-HKG is booked into K bucket (NH codeshare flights) and PEK-YUL into G (United-operated flights).

I bought YUL-LAX (G-class) separately on a different PNR (actually I paid for YOW-LAX but ended up with YUL-LAX because of a schedule change).
Never had the occasion to reduce the price of this deal by doing West Coast-HKG instead of East Coast-China (HGH, etc.) neither. It is indeed quite strange that it works.
Thanks
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by X31
Yup, a CSR on the phone.
This deal is more than a year old now, I think I did five of these runs, had my share of schedule changes and IRROPS and this must be about the 10th time I've called about one of these, they don't really care.

I had one or two CSR laughing and saying "that is a very cheap fare you got", but nothing happened
I also took a couple of those last year, so that is why I was asking, as I just went to United from Google and booked it. It just did not include the Island hopper.
I decided to buy/ticket two itineraries a couple of hours ago, just in case. Total came to $336.11 USD per trip including the great island hopper

So, which side of the plane is the correct side to enjoy the view
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by carlitos
(...) I decided to buy/ticket two itineraries a couple of hours ago, just in case. Total came to $336.11 USD per trip including the great island hopper (...)

Care to share what you just booked?
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul
Care to share what you just booked?
Sure, no problem.

https://www.google.ca/flights/?f=0#s...YYZ0AC788;eo=e
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 10:08 am
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So is it possible to drop a CA leg at the end of the trip? I am in SFO, so this is what I am thinking (if planning out for the same dates).

https://goo.gl/flights/yv4Wh
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by carlitos
Nice flight plan! Wish you all were Delta flyers!
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