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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July

August
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)

December
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February

March
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH


October
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD
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Old Jun 13, 18, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
So, which side of the plane is the correct side to enjoy the view
According to a well-known travel blog that I'm sure I cannot reference here, this should give you some hints.
But the runways can change direction depending on the winds, so it's still a gamble.

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Old Jun 13, 18, 11:57 am
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The previous sales (from the east coast at least) seemed to allow the outgoing to include a leg from HKG on Cathay Dragon to a city on the mainland such as HGH or CAN. I can't seem to find any fares that allow this on the current deals from the west coast. Anyone have any luck?
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Old Jun 13, 18, 12:34 pm
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Anyone seen an itinerary where I start in VYR or YYJ and end up on the East coast?

I'd love that in late October. :-)
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Old Jun 13, 18, 1:41 pm
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Would this pnr require visa from China or would twov suffice? Thanks!
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Old Jun 13, 18, 2:06 pm
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Would this pnr require visa from China or would twov suffice? Thanks!
No, it wont. I booked CX one way with AA miles and that allows me to start in Hong Kong and end in Japan, which are two different countries. Also, I already did this with CX and they allowed me to board the plane twice last year, as they do know the rule for No Chinese Visa with a stopover (both times at HGH, so also PEK has to be an easier airport to get the transit waiver visa). I am pretty much sure that if I start in the USA via China with stopover and then continue to another destination in Asia, it would be tough to explain to the airline to let me board the airplane to China without a visa (specially a US Airline).
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Old Jun 13, 18, 2:10 pm
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Would this pnr require visa from China or would twov suffice? Thanks!
Depends on what you do with it! This itinerary has an open-jaw between Hong Kong (which is not in China for TWOV purposes) and Beijing.
If you position using a direct HKG-PEK (or TSN which is in the same region) or transiting through a country that is not China (you cannot connect domestically in China) nor Japan (you cannot go back to the same country when transiting), you are OK for TWOV.

(ex: HKG-TPE-PEK is good, HKG-PVG-PEK is not, HKG-NRT-PEK neither, but HKG-SIN-TSN works!)
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Old Jun 13, 18, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
I decided to buy/ticket two itineraries a couple of hours ago, just in case. Total came to $336.11 USD per trip including the great island hopper
Are all of the $336 flights sold out? The dates listed above seem to be pricing at $437. Is there anything I can do to get a $336 fare also?

Also, is there any chance of a later departure or arrival time at LAX (or a different departure/arrival city) toward the beginning/end of the trip (if I drop the LAX-YYZ portion) so that I can avoid having to tack on a hotel after/before my positioning flights? I'd prefer to position myself at LAX (or another departure city) the same morning that I depart for the trip, and fly back from a city the same night that I arrive, if possible.

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Old Jun 13, 18, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
oh my, you actually brought me back to the old gf! Like any gf I hate when it changes ;P How did you manage to do that? I hate the new one so, so much.

for the one who wanted to start in YVR and terminate in east coast USA, the closest thing you have is to start in SEA, then terminate in YUL/YYT/YYZ via a transit in NYC, etc, and hop off in USA.
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Old Jun 13, 18, 2:48 pm
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oh my, you actually brought me back to the old gf! Like any gf I hate when it changes ;P How did you manage to do that? I hate the new one so, so much.
Try this: https://www.google.ca/flights/?f=0
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Old Jun 13, 18, 7:23 pm
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This link stopped working for me today Thew "new" GF is just terrible. Back to Kayak it is.
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Old Jun 13, 18, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow View Post
Are all of the $336 flights sold out? The dates listed above seem to be pricing at $437. Is there anything I can do to get a $336 fare also?
The link was to flights.google.CA. The fare was $437 Canadian, which is $336US.
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Old Jun 13, 18, 9:23 pm
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I bit the bullet and booked a LAX-SFO-HKG/PEK-HNL-SFO-YYZ run for my husband and myself for next year.

Interestingly, the price on GF.ca showed $525CDN/$405US. When I clicked through to United, it defaulted to the US pricing of $405US. When I flipped it to Canadian, it dropped off a number of taxes and the total came to $473CDN (which is the cheaper fare that others were seeing for other routings/dates). Any idea why some of these taxes were only applicable for the US point-of-sale?


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Old Jun 13, 18, 10:10 pm
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Interestingly, the price on GF.ca showed $525CDN/$405US. When I clicked through to United, it defaulted to the US pricing of $405US. When I flipped it to Canadian, it dropped off a number of taxes and the total came to $473CDN (which is the cheaper fare that others were seeing for other routings/dates). Any idea why some of these taxes were only applicable for the US point-of-sale?
No idea. I always paid in CAD because it was cheaper, but I thought it was only because of a good exchange rate for whatever reason.
Would be interesting to know the logic behind it.
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Old Jun 14, 18, 1:29 am
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Any idea why some of these taxes were only applicable for the US point-of-sale?
I suspect it has to do with this:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-canada-aeroplan/1909423-high-us-transportation-tax.html
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Old Jun 14, 18, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by Toronto1970 View Post
I bit the bullet and booked a LAX-SFO-HKG/PEK-HNL-SFO-YYZ run for my husband and myself for next year.

Interestingly, the price on GF.ca showed $525CDN/$405US. When I clicked through to United, it defaulted to the US pricing of $405US. When I flipped it to Canadian, it dropped off a number of taxes and the total came to $473CDN (which is the cheaper fare that others were seeing for other routings/dates). Any idea why some of these taxes were only applicable for the US point-of-sale?


US POS:


Canadian POS:

Excellent! I just had booked this for Oct 2018, but really wanted this for 2019. Could you kindly provide dates in 2019 that would allow me to replicate this same itinerary? If at all possible within next 12 hours to allow me to cancel current reservation.
Also, were you able to find SFO-YYZ on UA metal, ideally with a connection in EWR or less ideally in IAD. Thanks again.
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