privacylawyer

Blogs talking about skyteam. but found this while searching.

Itinerary
Warsaw (WAW) to Hilo (ITO) — Tue, Mar 1
Warsaw (WAW) to Frankfurt (FRA) — Tue, Mar 1
United 9424 Dep: 7:05 am Arr: 9:00 am 1h 55m Airbus A320 Economy (K)
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA Layover in FRA 1h 10m
Frankfurt (FRA) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Tue, Mar 1
United 8845 Dep: 10:10 am Arr: 12:50 pm 11h 40m Airbus A380 Economy (K)
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA Layover in LAX 4h 31m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Hilo (ITO) — Tue, Mar 1
United 1004 Dep: 5:21 pm Arr: 9:05 pm 5h 44m Boeing 737 Economy (K)
Hilo (ITO) to Warsaw (WAW) — Mon, Mar 7
Hilo (ITO) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Mon, Mar 7
United 1706 Dep: 9:50 pm Arr: 5:10 am 5h 20m Boeing 737 Economy (L)
Layover in LAX Tue, Mar 8 10h 0m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Frankfurt (FRA) — Tue, Mar 8
United 8844 Dep: 3:10 pm Arr: 11:05 am 10h 55m Airbus A380 Economy (L)
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA Layover in FRA Wed, Mar 9 1h 15m
Frankfurt (FRA) to Warsaw (WAW) — Wed, Mar 9
United 8890 Dep: 12:20 pm Arr: 1:55 pm 1h 35m Airbus A320 Economy (L)
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA
Mileage
17,582 total miles
Airport Information
Warsaw Frederic Chopin
(WAW)
Hilo Int'l (ITO)
Frankfurt International (FRA)
Los Angeles International
(LAX)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) PLN2,913.91
Total cost for 1 passenger PLN2,913.91
How to buy this ticket
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Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found. Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier UA KLXNCZPL WAW to ITO (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code K
Covers WAW.FRA (Economy), FRA.LAX (Economy), LAX.ITO
(Economy)
PLN719.46
Fare 2: Carrier UA LLXNCZPL ITO to WAW (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code L
Covers ITO.LAX (Economy), LAX.FRA (Economy), FRA.WAW
(Economy)
PLN794.47
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) PLN44.48
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) PLN19.86
US Immigration Fee (XY) PLN27.80
US Customs Fee (YC) PLN21.84
Germany Airport Security Charge (DE) PLN70.06
German Passenger Service Charge (RA) PLN180.82
UA YQ surcharge (YQ) PLN816.08
US International Arrival Tax (US) PLN70.29
Poland Airport Tax (XW) PLN60.00
Poland Passenger Service Charge (ND) PLN0.52
US International Departure Tax (US) PLN70.29
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) PLN17.87
Subtotal per passenger PLN2,913.91
Number of passengers x1
Subtotal For 1 adult PLN2,913.91
This ticket is nonrefundable.
Changes to this ticket will
incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
WAW UA X/FRA UA X/LAX UA ITO 190.09KLXNCZPL UA X/LAX UA X/FRA UA WAW 209.91LLXNCZPL NUC 400.00 END ROE
3.78486 XT 0.52ND 60.00XW 70.06DE 180.82RA 21.84YC 27.80XY 19.86XA 140.58US 44.48AY 816.0

sannmann

LH K fares earn nothing in MileagePlus.

RobOnLI

True but a UA "K" doesn't equal an LH "K". What does it equal? The flights posted by OP are UA codeshares and need to be converted to LH fare codes.

LH "K" is the lowest fare code while UA has "N" as the lowest revenue fare code.

-RM

djohannw

Which is true, however when it comes to transatlantic travel, fare-classes are aligned 1:1, so a UA-K on LH-metal translates into LH-K. Which means that you earn zero miles on tickets like this.

However it should be possible to find flights on UA's own metal for the same price since the A+-agreement has these fares available on all participating airlines, and then we see the full 17K (minus the tiny WAW-FRA segment) earning on UA, or you could route through either ZRH or BRU to connect to UA-metal flights if the schedule permits that as both LX and SN also earn in K-class on M+ since some recent changes.

Greetings - Dirk

privacylawyer

This is a UA ticket. that changes earnings of code shares, as I recall.

imartin2k

Yep I think so too. What matters is this (from UA's website):

"Ticket number starts with "016" and was purchased from United on united.com, through the United Customer Contact Center or at the airport, or from a travel agency or other travel website"

If it is an UA ticket with a ticket number starting with 016, mileage accrual is based on United's revenue-based chart, no matter which metal.

This fare won't generate too many award miles anyway, but better than nothing.

o mikros

This is true, but only applies to RDM. Since the base price of the ticket (including YQ) is around $600, you'll get 3000 miles as a general member, with increased multipliers depending on status. PQM is still dependent on the fare class when on partner metal; as djohannw mentioned above, K on LH earns zilch.

I second his suggestion to look into flights on UA metal if you want to get full MileagePlus PQM.

privacylawyer

mileage runs have now become, status runs, haven't they?

imartin2k

@ o mikros
Right, thanks for clarifying. It has become very complex, this whole mileage thing.

@ privacylawyer
Unfortunately yes. Compared to last year, this year I earned so depressingly few MileagePlus RDM. And as Non-American, most other ways to earn RDM are unavailable.

Mike Jacoubowsky

But, as non-American, you have a waiver on the dollar spend requirement. Earning status might be easier, but getting award miles considerably more difficult.

Regarding the number of PQMs an 016 ticket will get, the new website gives a pretty detailed accounting for each leg as well as the overall. Just go through the process of buying a ticket and check the "details" link. Everyone says not to trust it, but it hasn't been wrong for me (yet) and I suspect since UA includes the PQM info in the confirming email, you've got a leg to stand on.

Bigzamboni

Yep, it seems to be possible. Adds 12-21 hours to the trip time on the outbound.

Found as low as 667e/$714. I suppose it might be possible to squeeze a few extra miles out with multi-city search rather than using what UA feeds out on the round trip search, but too much effort on a flight I won't take

Works in December too, for anyone needing the status push.

TheBlackMamba

This was already available since the beginning of november:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...hnl-620-a.html