New competitive expansion by AirTran at MKE
Feb 10, 2009, 7:04 am
#1
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New competitive expansion by AirTran at MKE
Information is starting to trickle out.
New nonstop destionations
Denver
Branson
St Louis
Minneapolis
The website does not yet show the nonstop flights, however you can see at least some of them as part of connections. (Can't book MKE-MSP, but you can book LGA-MKE-MSP for example).
Here's what I find for new stuff so far:
08:15 St Louis
10:15 Branson
11:02 Denver
16:00 Minneapolis
19:25 St Louis
At least so far trying to book other routings (like MCO-MKE-MSP, BWI-MKE-MSP, MSP-MKE-LGA, etc.) I don't find any more frequencies to those new destinations that these...2 to St Louis and 1 to each of the rest.
I have not yet looked to see if frequencies to existing routes like SFO have been increased.
New nonstop destionations
Denver
Branson
St Louis
Minneapolis
The website does not yet show the nonstop flights, however you can see at least some of them as part of connections. (Can't book MKE-MSP, but you can book LGA-MKE-MSP for example).
Here's what I find for new stuff so far:
08:15 St Louis
10:15 Branson
11:02 Denver
16:00 Minneapolis
19:25 St Louis
At least so far trying to book other routings (like MCO-MKE-MSP, BWI-MKE-MSP, MSP-MKE-LGA, etc.) I don't find any more frequencies to those new destinations that these...2 to St Louis and 1 to each of the rest.
I have not yet looked to see if frequencies to existing routes like SFO have been increased.
Feb 10, 2009, 7:14 am
#2
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Location: Bay Area, CA
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Information is starting to trickle out.
New nonstop destionations
Denver
Branson
St Louis
Minneapolis
The website does not yet show the nonstop flights, however you can see at least some of them as part of connections. (Can't book MKE-MSP, but you can book LGA-MKE-MSP for example).
Here's what I find for new stuff so far:
08:15 St Louis
10:15 Branson
11:02 Denver
16:00 Minneapolis
19:25 St Louis
At least so far trying to book other routings (like MCO-MKE-MSP, BWI-MKE-MSP, MSP-MKE-LGA, etc.) I don't find any more frequencies to those new destinations that these...2 to St Louis and 1 to each of the rest.
I have not yet looked to see if frequencies to existing routes like SFO have been increased.
New nonstop destionations
Denver
Branson
St Louis
Minneapolis
The website does not yet show the nonstop flights, however you can see at least some of them as part of connections. (Can't book MKE-MSP, but you can book LGA-MKE-MSP for example).
Here's what I find for new stuff so far:
08:15 St Louis
10:15 Branson
11:02 Denver
16:00 Minneapolis
19:25 St Louis
At least so far trying to book other routings (like MCO-MKE-MSP, BWI-MKE-MSP, MSP-MKE-LGA, etc.) I don't find any more frequencies to those new destinations that these...2 to St Louis and 1 to each of the rest.
I have not yet looked to see if frequencies to existing routes like SFO have been increased.
How many people in Milwaukee wake up and say that I need to get to Branson?
Why would Airtran compete with Frontier?
Why would Airtran want to take on NWA with it's 5 times a day to MSP.
They need to forget about MKE and find a focus city in the west.
Last edited by Tim34; Feb 10, 2009 at 7:20 am
Feb 10, 2009, 7:32 am
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Location: Pewaukee, WI
Posts: 120
I'm sure some of the destinations are based on MKE being viewed as a hub rather than just where would MKE passengers want to fly. I'm sure that's what they are thinking specifically for MSP.
As for Branson, that is a new privately owned airport. That likely could be a route to feed into the other destinations that MKE offers, other than always going through ATL. That airport had a ceremony before opening with an AirTran 717... I'm sure the private funding has something to do with this.
As for Branson, that is a new privately owned airport. That likely could be a route to feed into the other destinations that MKE offers, other than always going through ATL. That airport had a ceremony before opening with an AirTran 717... I'm sure the private funding has something to do with this.
Feb 10, 2009, 7:39 am
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I haven't posted anyplace else on Flyertalk because I already spend too much time online. And the pending AirTran expansion was discussed significantly over here already. That being said, I did just copy it over to that forum, where it primarily belongs.
Feb 10, 2009, 7:49 am
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Location: Pewaukee, WI
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Think about that route the other way around.. Branson - MKE - other destinations.
That would be like us saying that Midwest Connect offering a flight to say Marquette, MI is a stupid idea. No one from MKE is going to fly to the UP. It is the UP customers wanting to fly to the destinations offered at MKE.
That would be like us saying that Midwest Connect offering a flight to say Marquette, MI is a stupid idea. No one from MKE is going to fly to the UP. It is the UP customers wanting to fly to the destinations offered at MKE.
Feb 10, 2009, 7:55 am
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Think about that route the other way around.. Branson - MKE - other destinations.
That would be like us saying that Midwest Connect offering a flight to say Marquette, MI is a stupid idea. No one from MKE is going to fly to the UP. It is the UP customers wanting to fly to the destinations offered at MKE.
That would be like us saying that Midwest Connect offering a flight to say Marquette, MI is a stupid idea. No one from MKE is going to fly to the UP. It is the UP customers wanting to fly to the destinations offered at MKE.
Feb 10, 2009, 8:01 am
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Yeah, I don't have a good feeling about this Milwaukee "secondary hub" thing. I wish that they would do more in the west. It would be nice if they started a focus city in Oakland. Southwest and other airlines have cut back there. I know that the people at Midwest are getting a good laugh out of this right now.
Feb 10, 2009, 9:01 am
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Feb 10, 2009, 10:01 am
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More details and modifications
MSP is 3x, not 1x
DEN (1) /STL (2) /Branson (1) are as described earlier
Year-round
ATL
LGA
BWI
MCO
TPA
LAS
BOS (new)
LAX (new)
MSP
STL
BKG (Branson, new)
Seasonal
PHX
RSW (saturday only in offseason)
DEN
SAN
SFO
SEA
FLL
MSP is 3x, not 1x
DEN (1) /STL (2) /Branson (1) are as described earlier
Year-round
ATL
LGA
BWI
MCO
TPA
LAS
BOS (new)
LAX (new)
MSP
STL
BKG (Branson, new)
Seasonal
PHX
RSW (saturday only in offseason)
DEN
SAN
SFO
SEA
FLL
Feb 10, 2009, 1:31 pm
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I hope it works out for them.
Delta/Northwest/Midwest need lots of competition - in particular that monopoly hub at Minneapolis.
Delta/Northwest/Midwest need lots of competition - in particular that monopoly hub at Minneapolis.
Last edited by hazelrah; Feb 10, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Feb 11, 2009, 8:40 am
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I don't disagree on the competition. But, FL is going to have to do more than this to pry the loyal NW/DL/YX business flyers. I am one stop in either MSP/DTW/MEM to just about every market in the country. And with DL it is even easier. No way is a 3 X a day shuttle to MSP connecting to nowhere going to change my--or many business people's--travel habits.