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WineCountryUA Aug 21, 2009 7:54 pm


Originally Posted by murphyUA (Post 12263331)
.... Maybe out of here by 10. ....

just a bit better


Washington, DC (IAD)
Fri, Aug 21
Scheduled: 5:30 PM
Actual: 9:50 PM
Reason: Schedule change due to Air Traffic Control
Gate: D26

camachinist Aug 21, 2009 8:10 pm

Flight: (UA) United Airlines 975
Departure Date: Fri Aug 21, 2009
Status: Flight is Currently En Route
Delayed 240 minutes
Last change to status 3 minutes ago
Arrival Estimate: Estimated Gate Arrival at 12:05 AM


LOL, still on the ground, but, hey, it left the gate

LessO2 Aug 21, 2009 8:11 pm

Some more IAD fun....
933 from FRA was diverted to Richmond, VA. Got there at 8:40, scheduled to fly to IAD at 10:30.

The continuation of 933, IAD-DEN, was scheduled to leave at 9:55 p.m., it's now scheduled to go at 1:00 a.m.


Both 915 from Paris and 951 from Brussels diverted to Atlantic City and have since landed at Dulles.

GoingAway Aug 21, 2009 8:20 pm

Wirelessly posted (goingaway's phone: BlackBerry8900/4.6.1.231 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

There is still rain in the area, but most of the bad storms have left

noah Aug 21, 2009 8:23 pm


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 12263467)

Both 915 from Paris and 951 from Brussels diverted to Atlantic City and have since landed at Dulles.

Didn't realize the runway was that long there!

LessO2 Aug 21, 2009 8:31 pm


Originally Posted by noah (Post 12263517)
Didn't realize the runway was that long there!

Neither did I. Thought they'd have to land on the Expressway.

LessO2 Aug 21, 2009 8:32 pm

975 is now in flight, scheduled to arrive to SFO at 12:14 a.m., a little over four hours late.

camachinist Aug 21, 2009 8:33 pm

Departed at :28 past the hour. Yahoo....

phlwookie Aug 21, 2009 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 12263545)
Neither did I. Thought they'd have to land on the Expressway.

Runway 4-22 is 10000 feet. The airport also handles the NJ Air National Guard, with its fighters, and while it may not be everyone's first diversion choice, it can handle widebodies.

zbenye Aug 21, 2009 9:14 pm

Any information on ATL? My sister's flight has been on the tarmac for 45 minutes now, awaiting take off to TLV.

Edited: nevermind, apparently they've just taken off.

WineCountryUA Aug 21, 2009 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by zbenye (Post 12263680)
Any information on ATL? My sister's flight has been on the tarmac for 45 minutes now, awaiting take off to TLV.

Looking at realtime radar @ weather.com-ATL or the FAA site-ATL are the best sites
for general delay info.

For USA in general
Flight Delay Information - Air Traffic Control System Command Center

camachinist Aug 21, 2009 10:15 pm

DL152 appears to be about 250 miles from ATL. ETA 5:30pm local time in TLV.

Listening to ATC at IAD, they're still vectoring inbounds around weather, but things appear to be flowing better. I'm seeing a couple of diverted departures. Unclear on that. Looks like UA933, bound for DEN, has diverted to RIC....and just returned back to IAD. Wow, weird night...

United737522 Aug 22, 2009 1:45 am

Was on UA 660 today. Did 45 minutes on the ground in DEN after push. Put in one hold after another on arrival into IAD. Pilot came on and said we'd have 3 laps in this last hold otherwise it would be RIC for us. IAD came back just in time and set the airport up for approaches on 19L/R. We headed north of the airport and the controller asked the guy in front of us if he could take a 10 knot tailwind on landing since winds were out of the north. Both our aircraft could, but the winds strengthened to 12 knots, above the limit. ATC informed us it would be another hold while the airport was reconfigured. Our pilot refused and took us to BWI.

A great day to have Channel 9 on!

murphyUA Aug 22, 2009 2:47 am

A great day for Ch 9 indeed. Especially listening to Dulles Metering which appears to have no rules when it comes to pilots talking to other pilots. Some interesting transmissions:

Pilot A: XX YYYY can I get a number to a super?
Controller: I can get you the number to Command Center.
Pilot A: Sure
Controller: XXX-XXX-XXXX
Pilot A: Ya, thanks (sarcastic).
Pilot B: If that doesn't work, why don't you all 1-800-Mother Nature
Pilot C: LOL
Pilot A: Ya, I would have but the weather was 80 miles east an hour ago.
Pilot B: Boo-hoo.


Pilot A: Have I cleared Metering yet?!?!
Controller: Who are you?
Pilot A: XX YYYY
Controller: No, you're number 7.
Pilot A: I've been waiting here for nearly an hour.
[10 second pause]
Pilot B: Wow...an hour isn't that long.
Controller: Ya, really. Wahh.
Pilot A: When will the weather clear?
Controller: I didn't get my meteorologist degree.


Then the metering controller seemed to go on a 10 minute hiatus, but all the pilots are still talking!

"Where is this guy?!?!
"Took a vacation, or something".


Sitting at the Red Roof Inn, but apperntly not because of the Paid F. Agent said no, only 1K/GS. I then mumbled something and she went, "Are you Premier Exec?" I said yes and she said, "Okay, I can get you a hotel".

I left it at that :D

im-headed-west Aug 22, 2009 6:39 am

Bad night around IAD.

Things quieted down after 9-10, but then picked up big time around midnight. IAD ended Fri with a record for the day 2.2+ inches of rain ... areas north/west got upwards of 4 inches.

Seems the front is taking its time coming through the area and everyone in the DC metro area is under a flood watch until late Sat.

Round 2 of "Total Mess" is expected today.


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