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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by slawecki
make certain you and son have an accessible location if separated. i think the museums will be buried in the masses. one place would probably be the Folgers library in front of the capitol. for the back side, i would guess the jefferson. to the south, the occidental hotel.
Yes, museums will be mobbed by people seeking restrooms (hint). Think you mean the Willard Hotel (which has Occidental grille)?

Penn Avenue will be mobbed and difficult -- for an emergency/backup meeting point, I'd recommend somewhere north of it, a bit away from the hoopla.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Alpha Golf
Yes, museums will be mobbed by people seeking restrooms (hint). Think you mean the Willard Hotel (which has Occidental grille)?

Penn Avenue will be mobbed and difficult -- for an emergency/backup meeting point, I'd recommend somewhere north of it, a bit away from the hoopla.
anything near pa ave is a bad idea i meant the manderin oriental which is south.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 1:21 pm
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For a meeting point, I was thinking of the Navy Memorial, which has the advantage of being familiar to my son and away from the mobs on the Mall. Thoughts?
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by CDTraveler
For a meeting point, I was thinking of the Navy Memorial, which has the advantage of being familiar to my son and away from the mobs on the Mall. Thoughts?
Wouldn't recommend - the parade goes up Penn Ave, i.e. right past.
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Originally Posted by Alpha Golf
Wouldn't recommend - the parade goes up Penn Ave, i.e. right past.
My GF works in a Starbucks right across 7th Street from the memorial. Last time, the crowds and security were so bad, she barely made it in to work.

You might try further up 7th Street, in the Verizon Center/Portrait Gallery area.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Alpha Golf
Wouldn't recommend - the parade goes up Penn Ave, i.e. right past.
My thinking was more for a post parade meet-up. I've been to huge events before, and generally if you get separated during one, that's it for the duration. He's 13 and soon to be taller than me, so I wouldn't be panicking if we got separated.

After the parade, won't most of the crowd be heading south toward the museums? So north of Pennsylvania Ave might be less crowded? There's a bit of a sheltered area in front of the Navy Memorial flagpole - my Dad's flag was flown there - so the landmark would be easy to spot from a distance.

aces, do you know if your GF's Starbucks will be open on parade morning? Would be nice to know where to get a hot drink.
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by CDTraveler
aces, do you know if your GF's Starbucks will be open on parade morning? Would be nice to know where to get a hot drink.
It'll be open; it's on the NE corner of 7th Street and Indiana Avenue in a building with a gold dome--easy to spot. However, I can't guarantee you'll get in...my GF said that the Secret Service turned away lots of people and they did less than half their normal weekday business despite the crowds. (She got in because a co-worker led her through a back alley!)

If you can't make it, there are other Starbucks further north on 7th, away from the parade. Best of luck!
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 8:12 am
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we're talking close to a couple million people on streets that are impassable with the daily 50,000 or so. i have been to 2 4th of july events that we departed at the end. between crowd control and blocked streets traffic is still a mess after two hours. if you have been at a dump after a big game, or a rock concert, that's 100k people, usually with expressway exits. this is 2000k, down blocked streets.

if you want to go to 4th of july events, rent a hotel with a view of the fireworks.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by slawecki
we're talking close to a couple million people on streets that are impassable with the daily 50,000 or so. i have been to 2 4th of july events that we departed at the end. between crowd control and blocked streets traffic is still a mess after two hours. if you have been at a dump after a big game, or a rock concert, that's 100k people, usually with expressway exits. this is 2000k, down blocked streets.
Actually I was referring to Easter Sunday Mass in St. Peter's Square, crowd estimated at a half million, and with far fewer ways of egress than Pennsylvania Avenue.

My question about traffic patterns remain: after the parade, will most people be heading south/toward the Mall, or north, away from the public events area?

Originally Posted by slawecki
if you want to go to 4th of july events, rent a hotel with a view of the fireworks.
How did that get in this thread?
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 3:02 pm
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Post-parade, most people will be headed toward Metro stations, the nearest ones of which are likely to be fairly jammed for a few hours. On the south side of Pennsylvania Ave the crowds will head toward the stations south of the Mall, and on the north side they will head north.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 3:13 am
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by Often1
There are still a lot of downtown hotel rooms available. It's well worth staying downtown and walking as much as possible. On Innauguration Day, most of downtown will be closed to all but official traffic, it will be hard to cross many streets other than at designated places and many Metro stops will be closed.

I would simply check with event sites to make sure that they will be open. Also, remember that the innaugural is on Sunday and that Monday is MLK Day, so a holiday for most, and everything will be back to normal by then.

The key is to wear layered clothing to deal with changing weather and have things like water & snacks with you. Pay attention to security rules about what you can and cannot carry where, and all will be well.
If you read my prior post...when Innauguration Day fell on a Sunday (which happens every 28 years) by luck each time it was the reelection of the president. They did a private ceremony at noon on Sunday and the parades/parties and other stuff would occur on Monday.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by Rampo
Post-parade, most people will be headed toward Metro stations, the nearest ones of which are likely to be fairly jammed for a few hours. On the south side of Pennsylvania Ave the crowds will head toward the stations south of the Mall, and on the north side they will head north.
Agreed. (And I might have to get to Dulles that night, oh joy!).

I would definitely select something further north, like Verizon Center area someone suggested, or National Building Museum.

I was here last time, and the crowds and gridlock were unbelievable (though this time should be better, with fewer). Also, as someone alluded, if it gets really bad law enforcement might just close certain areas.

One other thing -- cell service in DC is terrible, and fails under high demand (9/11, earthquake...) So prepare not to panic.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 1:00 pm
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Rats! I was going to mention the Newseum's Inauguration Day package (they are right at the foot of Penn. Ave., great vantage point for the parade) but they are sold out. It's not cheap but worth remembering for the 2016 event: http://www.newseum.org/plan-your-vis...day/index.html
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 2:00 pm
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District now has a website up, assume info will be added as it becomes available.
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