Is Silver Elite worth anything?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13
Is Silver Elite worth anything?
My reward points are mostly from my Vacation Club deposit option, 120,000 points every other year, and there is no way that I could ever hope to reach gold or platinum level. But I read here that the Visa Card provides enough points for silver status.
The benefits of silver seem very limited and I'm not sure are worth getting another credit card. For those of you who are vastly more experienced with the elite process than I am, can you tell me what value (if any) I might get from the silver level? Thanks. This board is really helpful.
The benefits of silver seem very limited and I'm not sure are worth getting another credit card. For those of you who are vastly more experienced with the elite process than I am, can you tell me what value (if any) I might get from the silver level? Thanks. This board is really helpful.
#2
FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Freeload Univ. Where are you sitting?
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If you're not doing many stays at Marriott properties, then no status is worth much. And the Marriott Visa card isn't much good except for use at Marriott.
If you are a Silver, and you do stay at a Marriott, you get a 20% bonus on your points. (Golds get 25%, and plats get 30%, so there's not a whole lot of difference).
For spending your points on awards, you have the same availability as everyone else, so no particular benefit there.
If you do get the Marriott card, you will get a cert good for a free night, so that's a nice little bennie.
If you are a Silver, and you do stay at a Marriott, you get a 20% bonus on your points. (Golds get 25%, and plats get 30%, so there's not a whole lot of difference).
For spending your points on awards, you have the same availability as everyone else, so no particular benefit there.
If you do get the Marriott card, you will get a cert good for a free night, so that's a nice little bennie.
#3




Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium (former PP), Hilton Silver, UA Silver, AS Member, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,906
The regular Marriott Visa provides silver status, a signup bonus and one free night certificate (category 1-4) with an annual fee of $30. The Marriott Premier Visa gives 15 nights elite credit each year (automatic silver and drops nights needed towards gold and platinum), a signup bonus and one free night certificate each year (category 1-4 at signup and category 1-5 upon anniversary of signup).
The Premier card is worth it simply for the free certificate each year, and you get credit towards lifetime elite status with the 15 nights. The Premier also gives more points on Marriott purchases, 5 versus 3 with the regular Visa.
The Premier card is worth it simply for the free certificate each year, and you get credit towards lifetime elite status with the 15 nights. The Premier also gives more points on Marriott purchases, 5 versus 3 with the regular Visa.
#4
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,775
You can check out Marriott's website at Membership Benefits to see what the stated benefits are for each level. You'll note that the Silver doesn't have a lot of "real" benefits. Since Marriott almost gives Silver level away, that seems reasonable. For you, if you aren't staying at Marriott's very much, then the few benefits Silver does have (reservation line, reservation guarantee, bonus points, late check-out, etc.) just won't be of big help to you.
With that said, the card does have a few benefits for you. One you will get around 20K bonus points, a free night coupon, etc for getting the card. There are three different versions of Marriott branded Visa cards. A search can get you the pros/cons of each card. Another benefit that the card can get you even if you don't have a lot of hotel stays during the year is I think that if you pay your annual Maintenance fee, if you use the Marriott card, it is treated as a Marriott purchase, so you will get extra points that way. Plus I do believe some purchase their MVCI ownership using the Marriott card, as much as possible, to get a whole lot of extra points as well.
With that said, the card does have a few benefits for you. One you will get around 20K bonus points, a free night coupon, etc for getting the card. There are three different versions of Marriott branded Visa cards. A search can get you the pros/cons of each card. Another benefit that the card can get you even if you don't have a lot of hotel stays during the year is I think that if you pay your annual Maintenance fee, if you use the Marriott card, it is treated as a Marriott purchase, so you will get extra points that way. Plus I do believe some purchase their MVCI ownership using the Marriott card, as much as possible, to get a whole lot of extra points as well.
#5




Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW - North Texas
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum PRO, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 960
20% bonus points make it worth it alone, IMHO.
#6
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
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#7
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 13
I should have been more clear about my situation. We do stay at Marriotts during the year where we pay for our room and we also have used our points to stay and just have the expenses for meals/etc that go to the rewards system. But not enough to reach the gold level on our stays alone.
So an extra 20% on points isn't compelling to me. The certificate would be a plus. Is the separate reservation system better than general reservations? Thanks
So an extra 20% on points isn't compelling to me. The certificate would be a plus. Is the separate reservation system better than general reservations? Thanks
#8
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Texas
Programs: AA EXP (3MM Lifetime), Marriott Platinum, HHonors Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 122
Silver is better than nothing, but I wouldn't go out of my way to get it.
#9




Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: BRUSSELS
Programs: Ryanair PLATINUM : ) TK GOLD, AZ Gold, Radisson - gold,Marriott - gold
Posts: 659
all in all i would not fight for this status unless you get it anyway
marriott rewards is very slow and stingy on promotions
radisson is amazing though
marriott rewards is very slow and stingy on promotions
radisson is amazing though
#10

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MI
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Platinum, National Executive Elite
Posts: 562
I should have been more clear about my situation. We do stay at Marriotts during the year where we pay for our room and we also have used our points to stay and just have the expenses for meals/etc that go to the rewards system. But not enough to reach the gold level on our stays alone.
So an extra 20% on points isn't compelling to me. The certificate would be a plus. Is the separate reservation system better than general reservations? Thanks
So an extra 20% on points isn't compelling to me. The certificate would be a plus. Is the separate reservation system better than general reservations? Thanks
#11


Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MSP
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, UA Silver, Hertz 5*
Posts: 922
#12




Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 114
In the for-what-it's-worth category, I'm a low-end Silver. I get 15 nights from my MR visa and while I generate a few rewards points by putting the rooms of some of my traveling companions on my card, I average maybe 10-12 nights a year, so I'm not even close to Gold. However, I have found two major benefits of being Silver:
1) As much as people around here grouse about the lack of service and respect for loyal customers, I have found the people on the elite reservation line to be considerably more friendly and helpful than those on the standard Marriott reservations line. It's the little things, but they add up to a better experience.
2) Usually when I'm checking into a Marriott I ask if there's any possibility of being upgraded to the CL. I wouldn't even think of trying this if I wasn't Silver. Surprisingly, even though my night count is low (and I'm sure they know that 15 of the nights they see are from the CC I'm paying with), I have almost always been given the free upgrade, or at least access the lounge. I know they the staff is under no obligation to do so, and I would never fight them if they said no, but I've found that they don't, so I get the benefits of the CL.
...I'm actually going to be staying 10 nights in about a 2 month span from March to May, and paying for 16 nights (one of those group trips), so I'm thinking about trying to get a challenge to see how the Gold folks live, but I know the odds are very, very slim of them granting that. If they don't, that's fine. I think Silver is pretty nice as it is.
1) As much as people around here grouse about the lack of service and respect for loyal customers, I have found the people on the elite reservation line to be considerably more friendly and helpful than those on the standard Marriott reservations line. It's the little things, but they add up to a better experience.
2) Usually when I'm checking into a Marriott I ask if there's any possibility of being upgraded to the CL. I wouldn't even think of trying this if I wasn't Silver. Surprisingly, even though my night count is low (and I'm sure they know that 15 of the nights they see are from the CC I'm paying with), I have almost always been given the free upgrade, or at least access the lounge. I know they the staff is under no obligation to do so, and I would never fight them if they said no, but I've found that they don't, so I get the benefits of the CL.
...I'm actually going to be staying 10 nights in about a 2 month span from March to May, and paying for 16 nights (one of those group trips), so I'm thinking about trying to get a challenge to see how the Gold folks live, but I know the odds are very, very slim of them granting that. If they don't, that's fine. I think Silver is pretty nice as it is.
#13


Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: A number, but no status no more
Posts: 3,050
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
#14




Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 114
Correct (at least that is what they've done before), but I'm not trying to actually earn Gold...I'd never make it. From reading on FT, though, it seems like if you happen to get the right person on the phone, you can get a "challenge" where they will upgrade you to the next level if you stay x nights in 90 days or some similar time frame (regardless of your total night count for the past 12 months). I know it's usually reserved for people coming from the higher ranks in other programs, so I'm not optimistic, but it can't hurt to ask...
#15
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 25
I'm with those who say "it's nice to have the 20% bonus," particularly if you're going to be staying with Marriott throughout the year.

