Using Premium Pounds on an M11 rate

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Dec 28, 2006 | 3:06 pm

#16

90minfromJFK-CDG

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Originally Posted by Rontec

That's what I wrote. The question is whether a PP Coupon can be used for such rate.

I would say no. Refer to slowly's post which says that PP's are not "valid toward any rate that requires ID or membership." Of course there have been exceptions but I wouldn't argue if I weren't allowed to use a BB, EE or PP under these circumstances. YMMV.

Dec 28, 2006 | 6:16 pm

#17

Rontec

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 90minfromJFK-CDG

But it also says "Premium Pounds Coupons may be used for all publicly listed and available room rates"

So, going back to my original question, what if a rate is both "publicly listed and available" and "requires ID or membership"?

Dec 28, 2006 | 6:49 pm

#18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craz

As for reimbursement, if what a Managing Partner told me is true (at a Renaissance prop) then the Hotel doesnt get back 100% of the amount but something like 85% of the value of the BB or PP.

Seems good enough reason why they wouldnt want to allow them to be used where they arennt suppose to be.

That is why they must be booked directly with Marriott. Marriott needs to pay commissions of between 8 and 25% when rooms are booked through other channels.

Do not forget that a user like myself has been awarded this incentive to book future stays with marriott based on a booking at another Marriott that had low occupancy and I filled a room for 2 nights to get the voucher. This was booked directly with Marriott hotel as well. Meaning that they paid no commission on my first 2 nights.

That is 4 nights non-commisionable per BB or PP (obtained through standard channels) that more than covers the processing and fee.

Both earning of vouchers and availability of M11 rates are inventory and yield management controlled. This means it is very stupid for a property to argue with their use as they are reward for stay.

I am HH Gold. I get automatic upgrades there. I can walk there if they keep making it so difficult to use my incentives that I have been awarded.

Dec 29, 2006 | 12:43 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craz

As for reimbursement, if what a Managing Partner told me is true (at a Renaissance prop) then the Hotel doesnt get back 100% of the amount but something like 85% of the value of the BB or PP. Seems good enough reason why they wouldnt want to allow them to be used where they arennt suppose to be.

That is correct. The hotel gets 85% reimbursement. But that's still good enough, as far as I'm concerned. The amount of money at stake from the hotel's perspective doesn't justify the hard feelings generated. Remember, for me the amount at stake is 100%, not 15%.

Bruce

Dec 29, 2006 | 10:13 am

#20

neuro0

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A front desk manger once told me that the hotel will not get anything from Marriott HQ if the PPs were applied to an ineligible rate.

I think he was wrong!

Dec 29, 2006 | 1:14 pm

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My understanding is that such an outcome is theoretically possible but extremely unlikely. Somebody would have to scrutinize the folio very closely, and they don't normally do that.

Bruce