"These appear to be posts I made........"

Thank you for your admission. No reason for me to apologize.

Of course they're my words. Here's the Usenet posts in context, as archived on Google Groups:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.t...71e9065020cdd4

I've also been quoted on this subject, as well as others, in newspapers, too. That wasn't your point. You said I go around to other boards posting about this. That's completely untrue.

Good grief. You said I posted on other boards about this. That's completely untrue.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet....

Maybe its just the particular Marriotts I visit, the days I'm there or the time of day I visit the lounge, but in my experience, it is unusual for there not to be children in the CL for breakfast.

Not so much in the evening, but at breakfast, I almost always see children in the CL. And, for the most part, they're acting like children (which may mean that the OP would describe the a "shrieking"... I'm not sure).

So PTravels, what are you trying to achieve here. Seems we have a situation that is completely stuck. You have your views, others (and from an objective count of people most others) have a different view. Let's leave it at that.

So perhaps a moderator can either now close this thread or move it to OMNI, where it belongs by now...

Greetings - Dirk

I agree completely.

I second closing the thread.

PT, as a fellow attorney, I appreciate your tenacity in holding on to your position, although the overwhelming majority of posters, both parents and non-parents, seem to strongly disagree with you.

You've articulated why you believe the parents disagree with you. I would be curious as to your opinion regarding the non-parents equally strong disagreements.

I don't know you and I have not seen your previous posts. My next comments are based solely on your posts in this forum. IMHO, its the tone and implications of your original and subsequent posts, not any specific verbiage, that isolating you.

For example, you've suggested that the lounges intended purpose is business. Combine that with the fact that children are usually excluded from business venues, e.g. bars, conference rooms, etc., you project an image of entitledment, i.e my use is more important that yours. Again, you haven't articulated these positions directly, but they are being ascribed to you, whether fairly or not, is a different issue.

Personally, I have only been in one situation where I was dismayed to have children in the Lounge. The parents brought in four children into the lounge. The ran around like little hellbeasts, yelling and screaming, and as a result, it was impossible to have a conversation, watch television, etc.

I wonder if anyone else feels that there's a certain irony here; a thread that relies so much on semantics, legal-speak, dictionary definitions etc, having a title referring to the CONIERGE lounge.

I third that suggestion -- and three strikes make an out.

Bruce
Moderator