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Flyaway Apr 8, 2000 1:25 pm

Marriott Paris Hotels
 
Any comments on the Courtyard Paris, Renaissance Paris and the Marriott Champs Elysees will be greatly appreciated.

I will be in Paris April 23-25th and although I have reserved the Marriott Champs Elysees, the rates at the other two hotels look very attractive.

Thanks a bunch!

bdschobel Apr 8, 2000 2:48 pm

My wife and I stayed 5 nights at the Renaissance La Defense in November 1999. It was a pefectly good hotel, just a brief train ride from the center of town. I can't imagine that the Marriott on Champs Elysee is worth the enormous price differential.

Bruce

DrHowser Apr 8, 2000 3:28 pm

I would be interested in hearding about the Courtyard since I have booked a 3-night reward stay there in May.

Rudi Apr 9, 2000 5:49 pm

Renaissance La Défense, weekend-rate apr-7 to 9-2000: 750 FFr/night (without breakfast, booked on-line (the rack-rate published in the room is Ffr 1'950 - I hope nobody will ever have to pay so much).

La Défense is one (RER = express-métro) station from l'Arc de Triomphe (tombe of the unknown soldier). Last train back at about half an hour past midnight, afterwards a taxi costs about Ffr 120 from l'Etoile.

The Renaissance hotel is (inside) very nice, modern, efficient, with all comfort and services you expect from a ****hotel (but no Paris athmosphere) and just meters behind la Grande Arche at la Defense (sortie autoroute La Défense 7). Free coffee until 9AM weekdays, 10AM weekends.


dg1 Apr 9, 2000 8:43 pm

This question seems to get asked every other month -- there really should be an easy to find database. In any case I'll answer again.

I spent four nights, paid, at the Courtyard Paris. It is actually not in Paris and about a 10 minute leisurely walk to the nearest train station, 15 minute to Porte Maillot, which is a dropoff point for the Air France Shuttle Bus.

It is a very compact hotel, but that is probably typical European. It seems very new and the staff spoke English and was nice. We were surprised that the queen size beds were really two doubles pushed together, and not too well, so I often sank through http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif Otherwise, good value for decent location-- except I believe the maid was expecting a tip every day, since every day she left one less towel we were there until she left none (I just called down and got them to send some up).

If I went to Paris again on my own dime I'd probably stay there. Otherwise, I've heard good things about the Renaissance which is also a good, albeit a bit more expensive value, and the Marriott which is very expensive but real good location.

Bluebonnet Apr 9, 2000 9:49 pm

I vote for the Renaissance La Defense. They had great weekend rates, less than 100 yards from a metro stop(Grande Arch-La Defense). Nice rooms. (I stayed there just before the World Cup Soccer games started -- the most fun aspect of the hotel was the Romanian soccer team staying there.) As an aside, it took nearly 12 months for my Marriott points to post, but they did post.

Flyaway Apr 30, 2000 9:48 am

Second Courtyard to open in Paris!
 
MARRIOTT INTERNATIONAL TO MANAGE SECOND COURTYARD HOTEL IN PARIS


Contact: June Farrell
Tel: (301) 380-7796
Fax: (301) 380-4684
E-mail: [email protected]

WASHINGTON, D.C. – April 2000 – Marriott International, Inc. NYSE:MAR) will manage a 300-room Courtyard by Marriott Hotel being built in conjunction with Bouygues Immobilier at Roissy Park, Charles de Gaulle International Airport, outside of Paris, France. The hotel is expected to open in 2002 and will be the first Marriott International lodging product at Charles de Gaulle International Airport.

The Courtyard by Marriott Roissy Park will be located in the center of Roissy Park, a successful business park just outside the perimeter fence of the airport. The drive time from the airport terminals is about five minutes and a regular shuttle bus service runs between the terminals and hotels at Roissy.

“We are delighted to see our lodging portfolio in the greater Paris metropolitan area expand,” said Ed Fuller, president and managing director of Marriott International’s international lodging operations. “We expect strong, balanced customer demand at the Courtyard by Marriott Roissy Park and that all travelers will find this hotel to be a welcomed addition to their lodging options at Charles de Gaulle International Airport.”

For dining and entertainment, the Courtyard by Marriott Roissy Park will have a lobby lounge and brasserie styled restaurant. Other amenities will include a business center, a fitness center, 24-hour room service, in-room mini-bar, a gift shop and 266 spaces for parking.

For conferences and social events, the Courtyard by Marriott Roissy Park will offer 12,833 square feet of meeting space. This includes a 6,133 square-foot ballroom, that is divisible into five sections; and 6,700 square feet of additional space offering five interconnected meeting rooms, two stand-along meeting rooms and two 420 square-foot boardrooms.Elsewhere in Paris, Marriott International is represented by the 242-room Courtyard at Neuilly sur Seine, the 334-room Renaissance Hotel at La Defense and the 176-room Paris Marriott Champs Ellysees.

Elsewhere in continental Europe this year, a 154-room Courtyard hotel will open in May in Hannover, Germany.

Courtyard by Marriott hotels are aimed at business and leisure travelers who need consistent, high quality accommodations and services at moderate, affordable prices. The Courtyard brand was first introduced by Marriott in 1983 in the United States and, over the years, has been the leading choice in its category.

Services and amenities offered by Courtyard hotels outside the United States and Canada vary slightly from country to country, but are appropriate to the needs of the guest in the host country. All hotels feature superior quality guest rooms that are usually larger than rooms offered by other hotels in its segment. In-room business amenities include dataport, a large work desk and good lighting. There currently are 478 Courtyard hotels in the world, all but 37 of which are located outside the U.S. and Canada.

billhallNY Sep 9, 2000 4:47 am

Marriott-family hotels in Paris, France, pre-2014
 
Has anyone stayed at this location recently?
How is it? Is it near any Metro or RER line?
I was wondering how convenient it is (i.e. public transportation, how far, etc) to the major Paris sights such as Arch d'Triumph.
The little info on the Marriott pages seems
directed to having a car.
Thanks!

sbrower Sep 9, 2000 6:34 am

Stayed for four nights in July.

Transport - Had a car which was helpful. However, we (family of 4) also used the Metro. The nearest stop was about 4 blocks from the hotel. I don't have my map in front of me but I would say it was North of the hotel (what I considered to be the "back" of the property). It was just a few short stops to almost anywhere. If you are a good walker (10 long blocks?) then the Arc is walking distance.

Accomodations - We had what they call a suite. It was only slightly more expensive than a regular room. It was very large (especially based on my other experiences in Europe) with a separate bedroom, refrigerator, microwave, etc. We were very happy at this property.

Staff - They were nice but they knew very little about anything outside of the hotel. The neighborhood is residential, but there are lots of banks, markets, restaurants, etc. if you walk toward the Metro stop I mentioned previously.

dg1 Sep 9, 2000 10:15 pm

This exact question has been asked before. You can do a search in this forum -- I replied before too. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif I stayed there two years ago. It's not too far (but not too close) from the Metro -- ten minutes. It's a newer hotel. It's pretty generic -- if you are used to US courtyard's its the same with just a smaller (30-40% smaller) room. I apparently didn't get a suite http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I walked to the Arch the first night I was there. It's a long walk but definitely doable.. just tough to walk up to the top of the Arch after all that !

If I wanted to stay in Paris on my own dime I'd stay there again. Next time I go I'm going to blow the points for the Marriott.. that's quite a location. But I ain't paying the $200+/night or so for the hotel.

sbrower Sep 10, 2000 1:10 am

dg1 - I didn't check the actual rate, but I think you would need to pay about $500+/night to stay at the Marriott in the city.

billhallNY Sep 10, 2000 11:00 pm

dg1... I did a search 1st and didn't get a hit. I tried Neuilly and probably only searched the Marriott forum.

doc Sep 10, 2000 11:16 pm

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum63/HTML/000222.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum63/HTML/000102.html

billhallNY Sep 11, 2000 2:45 pm

Thanks Doc! Actually, I did full search last
nite and found several good posts in General TravelTalk et al

dg1 Sep 11, 2000 2:54 pm

I could have sworn there was a post exactly about this Courtyard -- but who knows -- as doc can show, I've replied many times about the Courtyard in Paris. My summary always is nice hotel, good value for the money. As per the Marriott, you're right. $500+ a night. I just lumped it in my head with all the other hotels 'too rich for my blood'... and 'good value for points' http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

billhallNY Sep 12, 2000 7:39 am

dg1... Yes I found several of your Courtyard
posts. At least 1 was in General Traveltalk.
They helped a lot...Thanks! I made
the mistake of just searching Marriott for
Neuilly and not all the forums, Some were under Paris or Courtyard. Darn... Time is just too tight these days..I need a vacation!

bdschobel Sep 12, 2000 9:45 am

dg1,

You're right, the Paris Marriott is a good value for points, but I suspect that you will NEVER get a reservation there using points. I tried for months without success. It's simply never available. We ended up staying at the Renaissance at La Defense (5 free nights using points) and were very happy.

Bruce

IM4Travel Sep 12, 2000 7:00 pm

I stayed at the Paris Marriott on points...100K for 5 nights in late February this year...got my dates on the first try...don't be fooled. The property is well worth the points!

billhallNY Sep 16, 2000 3:39 pm

What metro stop is closest to the Courtyard Neuilly? Someone said 4 blocks from the hotel. Thanks!

Update: from other posts it appears to be either ...
Les Sablons
on the 1 line toward La Defense
(1 exit past Porte Maillot stop)
OR
Louise-Michel on the 3 line toward
Pont de Levallois Becon
(sorry no accents)


[This message has been edited by billhallNY (edited 09-16-2000).]

AlexR Mar 27, 2002 10:29 am

Marriott-family hotels in Paris
 
I will be going to France on vacation and staying at this hotel using a certificate.

I'd like to hear from everyone who stayed at this hotel about your impressions. How were the rooms ? facilities? service?

How convenient is this hotel to downtown Paris sightseeing?

Thanks!

[Moderator's note: For a long time, Paris had just one Renaissance Hotel, at La Defense. In 2005 or so, the new Renaissance at Vendome opened. In reading this long thread, be careful about references to "Renaissance"; they probably refer to La Defense if they are pre-2005. This confusion is due to the merging of several Paris-related threads. In addition, many of the links in this thread will not work correctly because they now refer back to this one.]

blairvanhorn Mar 27, 2002 10:44 am

AlexR: Some of the more recent threads on this property.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum63/HTML/001251.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum63/HTML/001372.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum63/HTML/001009.html

TxLobo Mar 27, 2002 11:50 am

I stayed there a couple of months ago.... Nothing but Excellent comments from here. Its a little out of the way for most tourist sites, but the La Defense area is awesome and the building itself... WOW.

You will be about 400 yards from the train / subway station.

Rooms are more than adequate, larger than normal for Europe not as big as in America.

We were upgraded to a Suite which was excellent and the courtesy breakfast was fine.

There was not a concierge floor but this could have been closed because of the holidays.

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ntamayo Mar 28, 2002 4:18 pm

Can anyone please advise what public transportation (e.g. Metro) to take from CDG airport to La Defense? Any help appreciated.

MRW Mar 28, 2002 9:27 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ntamayo:
Can anyone please advise what public transportation (e.g. Metro) to take from CDG airport to La Defense? Any help appreciated.</font>
It takes about 55 minutes by RER (the Parisian commuter rail). From the airport take a train towards Paris and then switch in town at Châtelet/Les Halles for an 'A' RER to "La Défense".

go to: http://www.ratp.fr/ParisVisite/Eng/index.htm and look at "Route Finder" and "Maps"

ntamayo Mar 29, 2002 4:12 pm

Thanks for the Metro info.

Can anyone who has stayed there recently (past 3-4 wks) pls. confirm if their concierge lounge is open and if so what are their hours?

ccengct Mar 30, 2002 2:54 pm

One thing to consider... if you arrive at CDG in the early morning, you may catch the RER system at its busiest... not the best time to be lugging a bag or two.

Jilz Mar 31, 2002 5:02 pm

To get in from the airport, if there are two of you, its almost as cheap (15 euros per person, minimum 2 people, no extra charge for luggage; I think the RER is about 10 Euros/person) to take the shuttle bus (there are several cos, last time I reserved at airportexpress.fr). I phoned as soon as I arrived, and they were there in about 10 minutes. I didn't prepay by credit card, since I hadn't used this service before, but it sure beat taking the bus to the terminal with the RER station, then the RER, then transferring at a Metro station in Paris.
Also, for the metro you can buy a visitors pass good for several days, but I usually buy a "carnet" which is a group of ten tickets for a reduced price (about 10 euros).

bdschobel Mar 31, 2002 8:11 pm

I stayed there March 9, a Saturday night. The lounge was closed, but they gave me a breakfast coupon good at the restaurant.

Bruce

Expedient Apr 2, 2002 7:02 am

I stayed there a few months ago as well.

Really nice hotel (I'd give it a 4.5* Superior First Class), nice staff that gave me an upgrade, an pretty good weekend rates of around 100-120 Euro per room/night.

Naturally it is set in a business area, which is rather dead on the weekends and it may take over 10 minutes and ridiculous prices to get a taxi, but the Metro is just few minuts walk and 10 minutes ride to Champs Elyssee. Also the Grand Arch in front of the Hotel is worth going up for the view and its art exhibition. The hotel restaurant is recommended as well.

AlexR Apr 5, 2002 11:46 am

Thanks to everyone for the excellent info.

Also, I will be using a rental car to take day trips to various places from this hotel. I am concearned with parking in LaDefense area. What kind of parking options are available around the hotel and what are the approximate parking costs ?


felis Apr 5, 2002 11:59 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Jilz:
... but it sure beat taking the bus to the terminal with the RER station, then the RER, then transferring at a Metro station in Paris.</font>
If you land at Roissy 1 (CDG 1), sur youneed to take a bus to the RER statin, which is really not nice nor comfortable and takes time.

If you land in CDG2 (AF,DL), in this case, the RER station is a few hundred of yards away, and, after 9:00, tthe trains are direct to downtown.
The connectin in Vhatelet-Les Halles is really very easy, it is on the same station, and there are 3 more stations up to La DEFENSE.

By bus or cab, youd on not need to pass through Paris downtown, so it may, on must cases be shorter.


felis Apr 6, 2002 12:06 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AlexR:
I am concearned with parking in LaDefense area. What kind of parking options are available around the hotel and what are the approximate parking costs ?</font>

there are a lot of parkings in the area, some of them are free but others are dedicated to stores(particularly the ones for the hypermarket). I am not sure if they are open all the night.
It may not be totaly safe to let the car in sthe street, as the district around La defense are not 100 percent nice (but still not dangerous, you can walk without any problem).
The best would probably be to question the hotel directly.

You know that, from La defense, the RER and Metro will drop you very quicky and conveniently to Champs-Elysées, Le lOuvre, Musee d'orsay, Notre Dame, Quartier Latin, and, with a connection, on a lot of other interesting places, including versailles.

You could probably alos just use a rental car for the day and drop it back in the evening.
With Avis, if no insurance needded, I can find 30 euros per day rentals, and even less. If you need to add 10 or 15 bucks for a parling, that might not be so nice.

ntamayo May 29, 2002 1:01 pm

Here's a tip if you're arriving early in the day (i.e. &lt; 10am) on a weekday, and you're a Gold or Plat elite:

If you're room is not ready yet, even though you requested an early check-in on your booking, ask if you can wait in the club lounge on the 10th floor while your room is being made up. If you're Gold or Plat, you're going to have access to the lounge anyways during your stay; might as well take advantage of it off the bat.

Also, I found cheap alternative to the brasserie food. Go to the nearby Auchan hypermarket in the 4-Temps shopping mall (by the RER station on the walk back to the hotel). My wife and I were able to pick up my favorite smelly cheese, salad, baguettes, cold cuts, smoked salmon, fruit and water for less than 10 Euros to take back to the room.

paradocs May 29, 2002 2:01 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ntamayo:


Also, I found cheap alternative to the brasserie food. Go to the nearby Auchan hypermarket in the 4-Temps shopping mall (by the RER station on the walk back to the hotel). My wife and I were able to pick up my favorite smelly cheese, salad, baguettes, cold cuts, smoked salmon, fruit and water for less than 10 Euros to take back to the room.
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We did just that. Convenient and cheap. But, you forgot the excellent $3 bottle of wine!

bdschobel May 29, 2002 3:16 pm

We did that, too! Great minds think alike, apparently.

Bruce

ntamayo May 29, 2002 3:23 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by paradocs:

We did just that. Convenient and cheap. But, you forgot the excellent $3 bottle of wine!
</font>
True, true, paradocs, but since we really don't drink, we could've splurged those extra 3 euros on foie gras! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

One thing I wished, though, is for them to keep the lounge open during the weekends, and keep a distance away from the loud non-business crowd during breakfast.

AlexR May 29, 2002 6:48 pm

Thanks to all for your advice. I had a great time in France and a nice stay at Renaissance LaDefense.

Muerz Nov 2, 2002 4:05 am

Convenience: Renaissance or Courtyard in Paris
 
I'd like to ask you which hotel is more convenient for shopping Paris: The Renaissance or the Courtyard Neuilly? The Marriott is far too expensive for the dates I wanna go. I have been there last year on a good rate but 450++ Euro is too expensive for this place. Renaissance and Courtyard are both about 130 Euro. Which one is the better one? Which one is more convenient for shopping? Are the metro far away? Are they in busy areas? Are the rooms large enough to fit 3 people? How much is breakfast there? Is breakfast worth it (eggs, pancakes... available)? Can get a suite for 3 at the Courtyard for the cost of a Quality room at the Renaissance. Which one should I choose?

Muerz

monahos Nov 2, 2002 8:42 am

While the Courtyard in Neuilly is physically closer to Paris than the Renaissance in la Défense, there is no metro going to Neuilly. A direct RATP bus from the Neuilly to Etoile takes about 25 minutes, while the metro from la Défense to Etoile takes 5-10 minutes.

Neuilly is a nicer area than la Défense, which is Paris' (barren) skyscraper business district. Neuilly is an upscale residential suburb.

I would choose the Courtyard for a longer stay, if I had a car, or planned to use taxis. On a weekend shopping trip, I would opt for the Renaissance and take the metro.

jenn_1K Nov 2, 2002 9:20 am

Two years ago we stayed at the Courtyard. There is a metro station that is about a 3/4 mile walk from the hotel. The breakfast buffet was very nice there as well.


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