Sep 23, 2014, 9:34 pm
W Verbier, Switzerland [Master Thread]
Apr 16, 2013, 10:11 am
#16
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BKK
Programs: World of Hyatt Globalist; Marriott Bonvoy LTP; IHG Plat
Posts: 2,233
Have you ever been to Verbier ? It is not surprising that it is a category 7, in fact anything other than Cat 7 would have highly surprised me as the whole town is extremely expensive.
I do question what type of prices this place will command during the off season (May to November). I think that is the biggest challenge the place will have.
I do question what type of prices this place will command during the off season (May to November). I think that is the biggest challenge the place will have.
Actually I don't even know where Verbier is located in switzerland.
Just frustrated by the increasing of cat 7 properties.
2 years ago - just 19 properties
today - 35 properties.
Jun 3, 2013, 5:35 am
#17
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: europe
Programs: EXē-*wood platinum, EX-hyatt diamond, sixt platinum, hilton silver, leaders club, esselunga verde...
Posts: 2,048
I do have a confirmed booking for the first of december 2013. It will be a stop on may way to rome. Hope it works. BTW if it will not be open i can not cancel after the first of november free of charge... 
Jun 3, 2013, 6:42 am
#18
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Location: VCE
Posts: 14,165
So many interesting places to go in the mountains- why Verbier?
Jun 3, 2013, 7:39 am
#20
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Is skiing open there on 01DEC this year?
Jun 3, 2013, 8:32 am
#22
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Dec 23, 2013, 2:45 am
#25
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Switzerland
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 61
Dec 23 seems to be the first date for booking.
36 sqm up to a spectacular room seems for me very small with prices starting around US$ 800 OFF season and just a Cozy room (or 30.000 points).
36 sqm up to a spectacular room seems for me very small with prices starting around US$ 800 OFF season and just a Cozy room (or 30.000 points).
Dec 23, 2013, 6:34 am
#26
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: BUF
Programs: SPG Plt, HHonors Gold, UA Gold, PC Plat, Marriott Gold
Posts: 880
ha, expensive and small! 
from the reservations page...
Wonderful room, non-smoking : King Bed
36 sq ft / 3 mē
W Signature Bed
Balcony with partial view
USD 893.30
Per Room / Night
Including charges & taxes
from the reservations page...Wonderful room, non-smoking : King Bed
36 sq ft / 3 mē
W Signature Bed
Balcony with partial view
USD 893.30
Per Room / Night
Including charges & taxes
Dec 25, 2013, 5:03 pm
#30
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,642
And yet many people think that HH is alone in rendering redemptions at upscale properties uneconomic following recent changes.
A room night at a top category Hilton property at the most expensive time of the year runs to 95k HH points per night. A Hilton Diamond would need to spend a minimum of $4750 to earn a 1 night stay at the highest category property. All these properties also have "standard rooms".
In contrast to redeem at the highest category Starwood with standard rooms at the most expensive time of the year you would need 35k SPG points which would mean that a <75 night SPG Plat would need to spend more than $11600 for the free night. This ratio spirals higher for the properties without standard rooms.
Whilst Hiltons recent changes were a big shift from the relatively generous earn/burn rates of the past, they still look extremely generous in comparison to SPG.
A room night at a top category Hilton property at the most expensive time of the year runs to 95k HH points per night. A Hilton Diamond would need to spend a minimum of $4750 to earn a 1 night stay at the highest category property. All these properties also have "standard rooms".
In contrast to redeem at the highest category Starwood with standard rooms at the most expensive time of the year you would need 35k SPG points which would mean that a <75 night SPG Plat would need to spend more than $11600 for the free night. This ratio spirals higher for the properties without standard rooms.
Whilst Hiltons recent changes were a big shift from the relatively generous earn/burn rates of the past, they still look extremely generous in comparison to SPG.