Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
Dec 18, 2012, 11:52 am
#721
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta Gold, UA Plat. Hyatt Diamond, Marriott Plat. Hilton Plat. US Airways, Starwood Gold, Avis Pres
Posts: 1,382
Dec 18, 2012, 11:58 am
#722
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
I've never understood the reasoning around choosing miles over points with MR. There are so many more benefits with points for MR than there are for miles, and LT is just the cherry on top.
Actually, because of the larger footprints of the rooms, and the majority of Residence Inns being patio style rather than highrise, the Real Estate and maintenance costs are significantly higher, as are the room outfitting/furnishings costs. Also, since this type of property emphasizes longer term stays, the average revenue per room, per night is lower for Residence Inns. However, the lower levels of services and perks is a slight offset, but not as much as you would think. Actually, I have long thought that increasing the services and perks and points at Residence Inns would yield higher occupancy levels and average revenue per room, per night, by drawing in more shorter term guests. I am not intimate with the longer term stay choices, having only ever stayed in Residence Inns (lots) and Extended Stay America (once or twice), but I would think that MI would benefit quite a bit by positioning the RI brand on the luxury end of the longer term hotel segment, while positioning either TownPlace or SpringHill in the middle or even moderate lower range of the longer term hotel segments. FWIW, my perspective on this is as a retired Commercial REALTOR of 23 years working experience.
I have always thought that MR would be a better program by offering multiple paths to LT Gold and Plat, just as MSP suggests. The goal of any hotel company is BIB nights, at whatever rate those rooms are being offered. Just because someone has business in a rural area such as Wyoming or South Dakota, where the average room rates for FI, CY, TPS, SHS, etc MIGHT be less than $85 per night, should count just as much when someone gets up to 600-1000 night ranges, even if their points are lower than 1.5 million, or something along those lines. But, as with all things, they didn't ask me!
Actually, because of the larger footprints of the rooms, and the majority of Residence Inns being patio style rather than highrise, the Real Estate and maintenance costs are significantly higher, as are the room outfitting/furnishings costs. Also, since this type of property emphasizes longer term stays, the average revenue per room, per night is lower for Residence Inns. However, the lower levels of services and perks is a slight offset, but not as much as you would think. Actually, I have long thought that increasing the services and perks and points at Residence Inns would yield higher occupancy levels and average revenue per room, per night, by drawing in more shorter term guests. I am not intimate with the longer term stay choices, having only ever stayed in Residence Inns (lots) and Extended Stay America (once or twice), but I would think that MI would benefit quite a bit by positioning the RI brand on the luxury end of the longer term hotel segment, while positioning either TownPlace or SpringHill in the middle or even moderate lower range of the longer term hotel segments. FWIW, my perspective on this is as a retired Commercial REALTOR of 23 years working experience.
I have always thought that MR would be a better program by offering multiple paths to LT Gold and Plat, just as MSP suggests. The goal of any hotel company is BIB nights, at whatever rate those rooms are being offered. Just because someone has business in a rural area such as Wyoming or South Dakota, where the average room rates for FI, CY, TPS, SHS, etc MIGHT be less than $85 per night, should count just as much when someone gets up to 600-1000 night ranges, even if their points are lower than 1.5 million, or something along those lines. But, as with all things, they didn't ask me!
RIs save a lot on housekeeping for longer stays by only doing housekeeping (including clean sheets and towels) twice a week. Rooms are a bit larger than regular hotel rooms and kitchens can be expensive to install and require some electricity and cleaning, but I'm not convinced that the land costs more since IME RIs tend to be located in suburbs and not particularly close to airports or other attractions. Some of the city locations are more high rise style and can also make money on parking. A few are co-located with full service Marriotts so they also make money on room service, restaurant and bar bills, etc. Others have some function rooms that they rent and perhaps also cater.
Dec 18, 2012, 11:59 am
#723
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: FLL
Programs: Delta GM, (fmr US CP/PP/GP!), DL SkyClub, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Avis Chairman's Club
Posts: 5,162
Why tough? You seem to be accumulating points at the rate of about 300,000 for every 100 nights +/-, so, when you get to 500 nights, you will have approximately 1.5 million points, give or take, does not seem like your trajectory for both nights and points will cause you much of a problem for whatever LT status you want to attain. Or is there some factor which you have not told us about?
Dec 18, 2012, 12:02 pm
#724
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Not being a miles earner maybe someone that is can provide some more specific insight. But given I doubt the properties are issuing the miles directly, I suspect they issue points to MR who then exchange them for miles per the member profile. Shouldn't MR be able to compute the points earned on the account? Seems senseless to preclude LT membership just because they chose miles.
I can see the desire to have the transfer to happen automatically. I do that with programs I don't frequent and don't want to miss getting the miles where I'll use them.
I can see the desire to have the transfer to happen automatically. I do that with programs I don't frequent and don't want to miss getting the miles where I'll use them.
Dec 18, 2012, 12:04 pm
#725
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
Why tough? You seem to be accumulating points at the rate of about 300,000 for every 100 nights +/-, so, when you get to 500 nights, you will have approximately 1.5 million points, give or take, does not seem like your trajectory for both nights and points will cause you much of a problem for whatever LT status you want to attain. Or is there some factor which you have not told us about?
Dec 18, 2012, 12:21 pm
#726
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
Programs: AA Plat 2MM, MR Gold, Avis Pref
Posts: 41,109
So is this a done deal starting 1/1?
I haven't seen much input from the Marriott side of the house.
I see there are too factions
those that have qualified or are pretty darn close to qualifying for Plat and do not want this to happen &
those that benefit immensly like I do. I have over 800 nights with MR. I'm already LT Gold, I have over 1.6M points obviously but < 2M. I also have the tenure down as well including years as Plat.
So now, I get to benefit assuming I can earn the points required. While It won't be easy or quick, its now pretty doable for me, or at least a lot faster than it was the current way.
What this has done is to make me a Full Time MR guy once again starting right now. I'm bailing on SPG (but I want to make it clear, they did not push me away, MR pulled me back) and Hyatt (they pushed me away). I know with my stay pattern the next year or two plus my CC useage, I am pretty confident I can 1. earn Plat back this coming year (13) and 2. earn LT plat in 2-3 years.
I would not have even tried had they not made this switch. I would have stayed at SPG and lived off my LT Gold with MR.
Anyone else in a similar boat as me concerning this LT plat and moving your stays back to MR?
I haven't seen much input from the Marriott side of the house.
I see there are too factions
those that have qualified or are pretty darn close to qualifying for Plat and do not want this to happen &
those that benefit immensly like I do. I have over 800 nights with MR. I'm already LT Gold, I have over 1.6M points obviously but < 2M. I also have the tenure down as well including years as Plat.
So now, I get to benefit assuming I can earn the points required. While It won't be easy or quick, its now pretty doable for me, or at least a lot faster than it was the current way.
What this has done is to make me a Full Time MR guy once again starting right now. I'm bailing on SPG (but I want to make it clear, they did not push me away, MR pulled me back) and Hyatt (they pushed me away). I know with my stay pattern the next year or two plus my CC useage, I am pretty confident I can 1. earn Plat back this coming year (13) and 2. earn LT plat in 2-3 years.
I would not have even tried had they not made this switch. I would have stayed at SPG and lived off my LT Gold with MR.
Anyone else in a similar boat as me concerning this LT plat and moving your stays back to MR?
Dec 18, 2012, 12:23 pm
#727
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
It looks like rollover nights will continue to count for lifetime status. When I log in and look at my account, "elite nights" includes rollover. The same number is called "nights this year" on my account overview.
Dec 18, 2012, 12:32 pm
#728
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: FLL
Programs: Delta GM, (fmr US CP/PP/GP!), DL SkyClub, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Avis Chairman's Club
Posts: 5,162
RI is already positioned as the best of the extended stay property brands, possibly in a tie with Starwood's elements properties which are more high tech/trendy but have a much much smaller footprint or one Hilton brand.
RIs save a lot on housekeeping for longer stays by only doing housekeeping (including clean sheets and towels) twice a week. Rooms are a bit larger than regular hotel rooms and kitchens can be expensive to install and require some electricity and cleaning, but I'm not convinced that the land costs more since IME RIs tend to be located in suburbs and not particularly close to airports or other attractions. Some of the city locations are more high rise style and can also make money on parking. A few are co-located with full service Marriotts so they also make money on room service, restaurant and bar bills, etc. Others have some function rooms that they rent and perhaps also cater.
RIs save a lot on housekeeping for longer stays by only doing housekeeping (including clean sheets and towels) twice a week. Rooms are a bit larger than regular hotel rooms and kitchens can be expensive to install and require some electricity and cleaning, but I'm not convinced that the land costs more since IME RIs tend to be located in suburbs and not particularly close to airports or other attractions. Some of the city locations are more high rise style and can also make money on parking. A few are co-located with full service Marriotts so they also make money on room service, restaurant and bar bills, etc. Others have some function rooms that they rent and perhaps also cater.
Sorry for straying a bit off topic without realizing it until after this message was posted. I should have made it more specific about earning.
Last edited by USirritated; Dec 18, 2012 at 12:38 pm Reason: added second paragraph about going off topic.
Dec 18, 2012, 12:36 pm
#729
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: FLL
Programs: Delta GM, (fmr US CP/PP/GP!), DL SkyClub, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Avis Chairman's Club
Posts: 5,162
I was never thinking about 1.6 million points for that poster at 250 nights. The math I laid out was approximate for 1.5 million points at 500 nights. I was just pointing out that twoner32 was not having as much trouble accumulating points as twoner32 seems to think.
Dec 18, 2012, 12:44 pm
#730
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2002
Programs: UALifetimePremierGold, Marriott LifetimeTitanium
Posts: 71,110
Dec 18, 2012, 12:47 pm
#731
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: FLL
Programs: Delta GM, (fmr US CP/PP/GP!), DL SkyClub, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Avis Chairman's Club
Posts: 5,162
What are the benefits of LT Silver? Other than a bonus on points per dollar earned, is there anything else of value?
Dec 18, 2012, 1:33 pm
#732
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: A number, but no status no more
Posts: 3,049
• Elite Reservation line
• Exclusive Guest Services line
• Ultimate Reservation Guarantee † **
• Silver Exclusive Elite offers
• Priority late checkout **
• Weekend discounts §
• Gift shop discount ††
• Elite-only rewards
• 20% bonus on points for stays ¶¶
• Silver customized rewards
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
Dec 18, 2012, 2:14 pm
#733
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Atlanta GA
Programs: DL GM 1MM, Marriott AMB/LTT, Hyatt EX, HH Dia, Ntl EEE
Posts: 211
Should I rush into it? Undecided.
I see there are too factions
those that have qualified or are pretty darn close to qualifying for Plat and do not want this to happen &
those that benefit immensely like I do.
What this has done is to make me a Full Time MR guy once again starting right now. I'm bailing on SPG (but I want to make it clear, they did not push me away, MR pulled me back) and Hyatt (they pushed me away). I know with my stay pattern the next year or two plus my CC useage, I am pretty confident I can 1. earn Plat back this coming year (13) and 2. earn LT plat in 2-3 years.
I would not have even tried had they not made this switch. I would have stayed at SPG and lived off my LT Gold with MR.
Anyone else in a similar boat as me concerning this LT plat and moving your stays back to MR?
those that have qualified or are pretty darn close to qualifying for Plat and do not want this to happen &
those that benefit immensely like I do.
What this has done is to make me a Full Time MR guy once again starting right now. I'm bailing on SPG (but I want to make it clear, they did not push me away, MR pulled me back) and Hyatt (they pushed me away). I know with my stay pattern the next year or two plus my CC useage, I am pretty confident I can 1. earn Plat back this coming year (13) and 2. earn LT plat in 2-3 years.
I would not have even tried had they not made this switch. I would have stayed at SPG and lived off my LT Gold with MR.
Anyone else in a similar boat as me concerning this LT plat and moving your stays back to MR?
With a LT 469/1.2 mil nights/points since May 2009 I would easily make the points and nights but not the 12 years of the old criteria. There was no reason for me to stay Marriott exclusively.
I must agree that this year and next could be a good match with me and Marriott. I've just got to convince myself to stay in May when they do not have a promotion.
If I switched all my stays to Marriott this year I'm really interested if I would be treated differently. Meaning nicer than usual. I was thanked for re-qualifying Platinum with the Quincy Marriott (I stay there a lot to include the 1st two weeks next year).
Last edited by Rondelltg; Dec 18, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Dec 18, 2012, 2:28 pm
#734
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: All over
Programs: Most
Posts: 10,839
I am relatively close to lifetime Gold. I have more than 500 nights and 1.42 million points earned. Seems that the points earned could be a constraint for some like me.
Dec 18, 2012, 2:44 pm
#735
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
Programs: AA Plat 2MM, MR Gold, Avis Pref
Posts: 41,109