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Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
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Answered "No" in the 16th question under "Loyalty Programs".
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Originally Posted by JackE View Post
spg -> ual
ual -> mr
What does this mean? If you have SPG Points why wouldn't you just convert them to MR? Why do you need UA?
spg -> ual
ual -> mr
What does this mean? If you have SPG Points why wouldn't you just convert them to MR? Why do you need UA?
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Laundering them through UA presumably does, although there's a pretty severe haircut in doing so:
- 20k SPG to UA = 12,500 UA miles = 12,500 MR points
- 20k SPG to MR = 60,000 MR points
#2361
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Conversion from SPG to MR doesn't increase MR lifetime points (at the time of transfer).
Laundering them through UA presumably does, although there's a pretty severe haircut in doing so:
Laundering them through UA presumably does, although there's a pretty severe haircut in doing so:
- 20k SPG to UA = 12,500 UA miles = 12,500 MR points
- 20k SPG to MR = 60,000 MR points
What this really demonstrates is the folly of SPG -> UAL.
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It might turn out to be "You're accelerating the acquisition of lifetime points using points" as I'm hopeful that SPG points will at some point in time be added to lifetime totals.
Last edited by dgreen12; Sep 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm Reason: Brevity is the soul of wit
#2363
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http://members.marriott.com/faq/#do-...-qualification
Answered "No" in the 16th question under "Loyalty Programs".
Answered "No" in the 16th question under "Loyalty Programs".
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Is there anyway to transfer air Canada miles to mr?
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Probably not, and even if so, probably at a very awful value.
Very few airlines have ways to transfer to very few hotels. Most airlines cannot transfer to any hotel, and most hotels don't have any airlines that can transfer to them.
Marriott has very special relationship with United:
and so just because transfer is possible between United and Marriott does not mean it's possible between another airline and Marriott.
Meanwhile, keep in mind that this whole issue of needing lifetime points might disappear in the next year or so. SPG doesn't have such a requirement for its lifetime program, so it's not clear whether the merged Marriott+Starwood program to debut about a year from now will still require points for lifetime status or not.
So don't go overboard wasting value transferring points if you're not going to reach your desired lifetime status in less than a year.
Very few airlines have ways to transfer to very few hotels. Most airlines cannot transfer to any hotel, and most hotels don't have any airlines that can transfer to them.
Marriott has very special relationship with United:
and so just because transfer is possible between United and Marriott does not mean it's possible between another airline and Marriott.
Meanwhile, keep in mind that this whole issue of needing lifetime points might disappear in the next year or so. SPG doesn't have such a requirement for its lifetime program, so it's not clear whether the merged Marriott+Starwood program to debut about a year from now will still require points for lifetime status or not.
So don't go overboard wasting value transferring points if you're not going to reach your desired lifetime status in less than a year.
Last edited by sdsearch; Sep 23, 2017 at 11:33 am
#2367
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 246
Lifetime Status ??? Strategy ???
Ok, since I have to qualify for SPG Platinum status annually I was thinking perhaps it would make more sense to apply a lot of my business spending on a Marriott card and go for Lifetime Status, even if it takes a couple years.
1- Does/will Marriott Lifetime status apply to SPG my SPG account. I know SPG status does not give the same Marriott status but want to verify that in fact it does work Marriott to SPG.
2- Any rumor as to what will happen down the road when the 2 programs finally do merge?
3- Would it be stupid to apply a chunk of Chase Ultimate Reward points toward meeting Marriott Lifetime Status point requirements?
1- Does/will Marriott Lifetime status apply to SPG my SPG account. I know SPG status does not give the same Marriott status but want to verify that in fact it does work Marriott to SPG.
2- Any rumor as to what will happen down the road when the 2 programs finally do merge?
3- Would it be stupid to apply a chunk of Chase Ultimate Reward points toward meeting Marriott Lifetime Status point requirements?
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Blanket statement: No one knows for sure what will happen in the future, and when. But...
It's almost certain there will be one program. And if it's going to take "a couple years", all questions about matching status across programs is likely moot. Today, status does match across programs, so the statement "I know SPG status does not give the same Marriott status " is not correct. Other than the fact that the tiers may have different names - they match like-for-like.
Lots of rumors, no facts.
I would guess that earnings toward LT in both programs will be factored into any combined program. Just be sure you need them - you need both points and nights for all LT levels, and likely will in the future. I know that points was usually the last item folks hit long ago, but seem to recall points was much easier to hit these days than nights (unless you're staying at $90 properties). It's been a while since I worried about it, so just check.
It's almost certain there will be one program. And if it's going to take "a couple years", all questions about matching status across programs is likely moot. Today, status does match across programs, so the statement "I know SPG status does not give the same Marriott status " is not correct. Other than the fact that the tiers may have different names - they match like-for-like.
Lots of rumors, no facts.
I would guess that earnings toward LT in both programs will be factored into any combined program. Just be sure you need them - you need both points and nights for all LT levels, and likely will in the future. I know that points was usually the last item folks hit long ago, but seem to recall points was much easier to hit these days than nights (unless you're staying at $90 properties). It's been a while since I worried about it, so just check.
#2369
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I would suggest looking at Marriott's official FAQ, clicking on all questions that have "lifetime" in them.
As long as Rewards and SPG are separate programs, achieving lifetime status in one program does not officially result in the same lifetime elite status in the other. However, due to elite status linking/matching, your status will be the higher of the two programs. So, for example, lifetime Platinum in the Rewards program means you'll never drop below SPG Platinum for the remainder of the SPG program.
The way I read the FAQ, achieving lifetime status in either program will provide lifetime status in the combined program.
However, nobody knows yet what the elite tiers and benefits will be in the combined program. My guess is that it will be a lot like the current Rewards program, but there could be substantial adjustments to benefits, and possibly at least one additional tier.
I don't know how Chase Ultimate Rewards point transfers work.
Be careful in assuming that transferred points count toward lifetime status. For example, transferring SPG points to the Rewards program does not increase your lifetime points.
However, nobody knows yet what the elite tiers and benefits will be in the combined program. My guess is that it will be a lot like the current Rewards program, but there could be substantial adjustments to benefits, and possibly at least one additional tier.
Be careful in assuming that transferred points count toward lifetime status. For example, transferring SPG points to the Rewards program does not increase your lifetime points.
Last edited by Horace; Sep 28, 2017 at 11:37 pm
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