Courtyard Poughkeepsie NY, Guest shot dead by homeless housed at hotel
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Courtyard Poughkeepsie NY, Guest shot dead by homeless housed at hotel
A hotel guest was killed in the lobby of the Courtyard Poughkeepsie NY by bullets fired during a fight between two homeless men inside the hotel. The homeless men shared a room at the hotel and were being housed there.
Investigators searched the hotel room the men shared and discovered materials that could be used to make explosives as well as bomb-making manuals.
Dad killed while visiting Marist student for Family Weekend identified as Paul Kutz (nypost.com)
I would like to know which Marriott Brands are being used to house homeless persons and what actions are taken to ensure that these homeless persons do not bring weapons or other dangerous materials where they pose a clear danger to other hotel guests.
How can Marriott ensure my safety if I stay in a US-based hotel?
Investigators searched the hotel room the men shared and discovered materials that could be used to make explosives as well as bomb-making manuals.
Dad killed while visiting Marist student for Family Weekend identified as Paul Kutz (nypost.com)
I would like to know which Marriott Brands are being used to house homeless persons and what actions are taken to ensure that these homeless persons do not bring weapons or other dangerous materials where they pose a clear danger to other hotel guests.
How can Marriott ensure my safety if I stay in a US-based hotel?
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Non-homeless people have guns, too. Lots of hotels have starting helping get the unhoused off the street since Covid started. I doubt there is a list available to the public as to which ones are providing this service.
Some have also housed college students, first responders, and medical workers who need to be close to their hospitals. Do you want lists of those, too?
Some have also housed college students, first responders, and medical workers who need to be close to their hospitals. Do you want lists of those, too?
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Fair enough.
What actions are taken to ensure that persons do not bring weapons or other dangerous materials where they pose a clear danger to other hotel guests?
What actions are taken to ensure that persons do not bring weapons or other dangerous materials where they pose a clear danger to other hotel guests?
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There’s not much a hotel can do. Do you want to go through a metal detector? Do you want your bags inspected? I stayed at one hotel with metal detectors and explosive/drug sniffing dogs, and it’s gets old quickly when you’re coming and going.
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Airports have security checks. Hotels should do the same.
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While the individuals were described as homeless, there is no indication they were being housed there through any kind of assistance program, contract with the hotel, etc. The perpetrators could have simply been paying for a room.
While tragic it is as close to a random crime as you can get. Hotels do training for suspicious activity (weapons, human trafficking, drugs, etc), and you have to hope hotel workers put it to use (though it can't be used to stop all criminal activity).
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While tragic it is as close to a random crime as you can get. Hotels do training for suspicious activity (weapons, human trafficking, drugs, etc), and you have to hope hotel workers put it to use (though it can't be used to stop all criminal activity).
EDIT:
In a statement provided to Fox News, Dutchess County Department of Community & Family Services Commissioner Sabrina Jaar Marzouka said the homeless suspects "were neither known as Department of Community and Family Services clients nor placed in that hotel by Dutchess County."
She added that the agency does not work the Courtyard by Marriott "for any housing services."
She added that the agency does not work the Courtyard by Marriott "for any housing services."
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Looks like this might not be state sponsored housing but in NYS they were using hotels during the pandemic to house shelter overflow. I was at a TPS/FI/CY/AFT complex in Buffalo for several weeks at the start of 2021 and there were a couple of folks staying. At least one used an assistive device full time so maybe they were trying to maintain distance for the more comprised folks staying at the shelter.
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Hotels all over the country have homeless people in them. Much of the time they pay weekly and they have made the choice to live in a hotel or motel. Sometimes a hotel is part of a program that pays hotels to house homeless people. In both instances you will not be getting a list of those hotels. You should assume that every hotel other than the highest level hotel may have a homeless person in it.
Also, there will never be metal detectors or searches done of hotel guests. Plan accordingly.
Also, there will never be metal detectors or searches done of hotel guests. Plan accordingly.
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Technically, Lucky from One Mile at a Time was "homeless" for a while, and living out of luxury hotels 365 days a year.
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Have you worked out the relative probability vs all travel risks?
I used to worry about European airports where I used to see guys carrying machine pistols to use on culprits after they had killed me