Charged $437 For Purchasing 35K Points When Trying to Use a 35K Cert On the Website
#76
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 37
So Marriott clawed back the points "purchased" from my account. I don't even see the deposit anywhere. I have not seen a refund yet either..
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
#77
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 2,263
So Marriott clawed back the points "purchased" from my account. I don't even see the deposit anywhere. I have not seen a refund yet either..
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
#78
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
So Marriott clawed back the points "purchased" from my account. I don't even see the deposit anywhere. I have not seen a refund yet either..
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
Oops did I just use “classy” and “Marriott” in the same sentence? 🫢
#79
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 393
What is inexcusable, is the lack of communication on Marriott’s part. Someone should have contacted you to offer a sincere apology and tell you that they are processing your refund (which might take up to a week) but they were going to pull the points from your account at this time. I would expect no less from a classy hotel chain bearing the Marriott name!
Oops did I just use “classy” and “Marriott” in the same sentence? 🫢
Oops did I just use “classy” and “Marriott” in the same sentence? 🫢
#80
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Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 853
No, a classy operation would have left a portion of the points as a sign of sincere contrition.
They could easily fund them with the interest on the undoubted millions upon millions of dollars they "accidentally" stole from their customers over the many, many months they were happy to see this continue.
Thats what you call a company helping itself to your money right, theft? Just what IS the penalty for doing that? Nothing?
As for Marriott's social media team, simply directing people to file complaints, as if they were idiots, while confirming the fact that nothing of substance will be coming from your "representation" of the company only makes things worse.
Tell your boss it's best if your team simply keeps quiet if they're not able to take action. It's a bad look to acknowledge a problem at corporate that continues without resolution for months, ending in Marriot doing the bare minimum required by law.
Not even an apology.
They could easily fund them with the interest on the undoubted millions upon millions of dollars they "accidentally" stole from their customers over the many, many months they were happy to see this continue.
Thats what you call a company helping itself to your money right, theft? Just what IS the penalty for doing that? Nothing?
As for Marriott's social media team, simply directing people to file complaints, as if they were idiots, while confirming the fact that nothing of substance will be coming from your "representation" of the company only makes things worse.
Tell your boss it's best if your team simply keeps quiet if they're not able to take action. It's a bad look to acknowledge a problem at corporate that continues without resolution for months, ending in Marriot doing the bare minimum required by law.
Not even an apology.
Last edited by Ghoulish; Jul 28, 2022 at 5:19 am
#81
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,465
Not just lack of apology or lack of any communication, but also Marriott refuses to acknowledge it was their IT error, and insists that I willingly purchased points, agreed it was non-refundable and then tried to get a refund. The Marriott Bonvoy supervisor on the phone told me they will let it slide one time, but there is a note on my account that if this happens again, my Bonvoy account will be closed, all reservations cancelled and all points and certificates forfeited.
#82
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 37
So Marriott clawed back the points "purchased" from my account. I don't even see the deposit anywhere. I have not seen a refund yet either..
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
This whole thing is very messy and I am sure a lot of people aren't paying attention to their lost points or charges on their credit cards.
#83
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 393
The whole thing is wild, but not sure what else we can do as customers.
#84
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 37
Yeah that is what I responded.
#85
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Bay Area, CA
Programs: MB Titanium, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Amb, UA Silver
Posts: 185
Apparently, the same thing just happened to me charged on my Bonvoy Business a few days ago. Unauthorized 45k points purchase for $562.50. I already disputed with Amex though with no prior knowledge about this. Did I make the right move?
The unauthorized points purchase shows up as "RESERVATION PATH POINTS PURCHA" on my Marriott activity, but the points aren't reflected on my account (yet).
The unauthorized points purchase shows up as "RESERVATION PATH POINTS PURCHA" on my Marriott activity, but the points aren't reflected on my account (yet).
#86
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 393
Apparently, the same thing just happened to me charged on my Bonvoy Business a few days ago. Unauthorized 45k points purchase for $562.50. I already disputed with Amex though with no prior knowledge about this. Did I make the right move?
The unauthorized points purchase shows up as "RESERVATION PATH POINTS PURCHA" on my Marriott activity, but the points aren't reflected on my account (yet).
The unauthorized points purchase shows up as "RESERVATION PATH POINTS PURCHA" on my Marriott activity, but the points aren't reflected on my account (yet).
In the future,. temporary freeze the credit card on the reservation for point or cert bookings to be certain this doesn't happen.
#87
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Bay Area, CA
Programs: MB Titanium, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Amb, UA Silver
Posts: 185
Hours later did some more digging around the forum and found this thread where people had the same issues I have. This comment basically sums it up: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29746216-post28.html
Someone in early 2022 also made a similar thread: Unauthorized points purchase with default CC
TIL there's a bug where you can get auto-billed if you try to make a reservation without enough points. Very new to me since I thought ALL properties would allow you to do Points Advance if you don't have enough points considering how far away until check-in my reservation is.
Not sure if I should call Marriott again or take the L and move on. It could've been me who was careless, but still, it feels crappy since I never was directed to Points.com to warn that I didn't have enough points.
#88
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 393
Talked to Marriott rep, and FNA's didn't have anything to do with it but my 5-night Ritz Kyoto reservation for next July (only had enough for 3 nights). I didn't have enough points for the reservation but I also didn't go through Points.com to buy points. Rep said points purchases can't be reversed :/. I also cancelled my dispute with Amex.
Hours later did some more digging around the forum and found this thread where people had the same issues I have. This comment basically sums it up: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29746216-post28.html
Someone in early 2022 also made a similar thread: Unauthorized points purchase with default CC
TIL there's a bug where you can get auto-billed if you try to make a reservation without enough points. Very new to me since I thought ALL properties would allow you to do Points Advance if you don't have enough points considering how far away until check-in my reservation is.
Not sure if I should call Marriott again or take the L and move on. It could've been me who was careless, but still, it feels crappy since I never was directed to Points.com to warn that I didn't have enough points.
Hours later did some more digging around the forum and found this thread where people had the same issues I have. This comment basically sums it up: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29746216-post28.html
Someone in early 2022 also made a similar thread: Unauthorized points purchase with default CC
TIL there's a bug where you can get auto-billed if you try to make a reservation without enough points. Very new to me since I thought ALL properties would allow you to do Points Advance if you don't have enough points considering how far away until check-in my reservation is.
Not sure if I should call Marriott again or take the L and move on. It could've been me who was careless, but still, it feels crappy since I never was directed to Points.com to warn that I didn't have enough points.