Chase cheaper than Mariott for redemption
Jun 6, 2021, 11:53 pm
#1
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Chase cheaper than Mariott for redemption
I have the option of the following for the Westin Denver International Airport.
Rooms are selling for $419 and with taxes $492.
Marriott Rewards is 60,000.
I could redeem Chase 32,332.
It seems like since Chase transfers to Marriott on a 1:1 it makes more sense to use Chase.
Am I missing something?
Rooms are selling for $419 and with taxes $492.
Marriott Rewards is 60,000.
I could redeem Chase 32,332.
It seems like since Chase transfers to Marriott on a 1:1 it makes more sense to use Chase.
Am I missing something?
Jun 7, 2021, 5:28 am
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IMO, you are not missing anything. That just proves the UR to Marriott Bonvoy transfer at 1:1 is never a good value. UR is valued at 2.0 cents and Bonvoy point is valued at around 0.8 cent.
Jun 7, 2021, 6:34 am
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You're not missing much.
Spending 60,000 Marriott points to save $492 gets you 0.82 cents per point --> OK
Spending 32,332 Chase points to save $492 gets you 1.5 cents per point --> not great but YMMV
Converting 60,000 Chase points into 60k Marriott points to book room --> totally stupid
If you have 60k Marriott points already, spend those. Otherwise considering paying cash.
Spending 60,000 Marriott points to save $492 gets you 0.82 cents per point --> OK
Spending 32,332 Chase points to save $492 gets you 1.5 cents per point --> not great but YMMV
Converting 60,000 Chase points into 60k Marriott points to book room --> totally stupid
If you have 60k Marriott points already, spend those. Otherwise considering paying cash.
Jun 7, 2021, 6:36 am
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I have the option of the following for the Westin Denver International Airport.
Rooms are selling for $419 and with taxes $492.
Marriott Rewards is 60,000.
I could redeem Chase 32,332.
It seems like since Chase transfers to Marriott on a 1:1 it makes more sense to use Chase.
Am I missing something?
Rooms are selling for $419 and with taxes $492.
Marriott Rewards is 60,000.
I could redeem Chase 32,332.
It seems like since Chase transfers to Marriott on a 1:1 it makes more sense to use Chase.
Am I missing something?
Jun 7, 2021, 6:37 am
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Only one really notable callout: Using Chase points will most likely count as a 3rd party booking, so you won't receive elite benefits, points, or qualifying nights from Marriott.
You're also missing that if you're truly maximizing, you could transfer Chase points for a higher value than the 1.5 cents per point you're getting here with some of their other transfer partners - but that only applies if you would actually use them that way.
But yes - transferring from Chase to Marriott (or IHG) is just about never a good value.
(Edit: Others beat me to it by ~1 minute!)
You're also missing that if you're truly maximizing, you could transfer Chase points for a higher value than the 1.5 cents per point you're getting here with some of their other transfer partners - but that only applies if you would actually use them that way.
But yes - transferring from Chase to Marriott (or IHG) is just about never a good value.
(Edit: Others beat me to it by ~1 minute!)
Jun 7, 2021, 9:20 am
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You're also missing that if you're truly maximizing, you could transfer Chase points for a higher value than the 1.5 cents per point you're getting here with some of their other transfer partners - but that only applies if you would actually use them that way.
Jun 7, 2021, 9:35 am
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Very easy to do cents per point calculations, but $492 for a night at an airport hotel only makes sense when spending somebody else's money. (or you have a 6 am flight or something) So you really ought to compare the 60k points against the cash cost of a reasonable alternative (cheaper) hotel, as well as the one you are booking...
Jun 7, 2021, 8:08 pm
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+1. Since there are many airport properties (including Marriott options) with free airport shuttles nearby at much more reasonable price points, why would anyone spend 2x to stay at the Westin? Even on OPM, I wouldn't do it. Guess some folks truly are price insensitive.
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Jun 8, 2021, 2:59 am
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+1. Since there are many airport properties (including Marriott options) with free airport shuttles nearby at much more reasonable price points, why would anyone spend 2x to stay at the Westin? Even on OPM, I wouldn't do it. Guess some folks truly are price insensitive.
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And there's no doubt whatsoever that walking to the airport terminal has a substantial value when compared to waiting around for a shuttle. It's not just the Westin, but every hotel connected to any airport manages a very healthy price premium...
Jun 8, 2021, 4:46 am
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Because when you waste OPM you keep all of the extra points for yourself. Didn't you see Up in the Air?
And there's no doubt whatsoever that walking to the airport terminal has a substantial value when compared to waiting around for a shuttle. It's not just the Westin, but every hotel connected to any airport manages a very healthy price premium...
And there's no doubt whatsoever that walking to the airport terminal has a substantial value when compared to waiting around for a shuttle. It's not just the Westin, but every hotel connected to any airport manages a very healthy price premium...
--Jon
Jun 8, 2021, 4:38 pm
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I agree there is substantial value on being able to walk directly into the airport terminal rather than deal with a shuttle. I also agree there is a premium for the privilege. Where we disagree is on the amount of the typical premium. +$50-$100 over the average rate for properties that require using a shuttle is very common. Over double, which I am fairly certain is the case with the Westin in this example, is not. YMMV...
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