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What Bonvoy program pays property for point redemption

Old Aug 9, 20, 3:35 pm
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What Bonvoy program pays property for point redemption

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Property name:
Point redemption amount:
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Old Aug 9, 20, 3:37 pm
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What Marriott Corp pays property for points: $191.82 (after tax included)
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Old Aug 9, 20, 3:43 pm
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How do you find the redemption payment?
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Old Aug 9, 20, 8:21 pm
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I will not answer this other than to say in my case it does not involve anything illegal or improper like hacking etc.
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Old Aug 9, 20, 8:27 pm
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Don’t the properties get paid different amounts depending on their occupancy?

I’ve had many times that hotels have billed me for points stays. Often I just wished I could pay that amount, and keep my points.
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Old Aug 9, 20, 8:29 pm
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SPG used variable values tied to occupancy level. Hence, your payment value may only be valid for your particular stay. I am not sure about Bonvoy.

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Old Aug 9, 20, 10:06 pm
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So lets add aprox date or month of stay. This information could be very useful to flyertalk members


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SPG used variable values tied to occupancy level. Hence, you payment value may only be valid for your particular stay. I am not sure about Bonvoy.
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Old Aug 9, 20, 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Centurion View Post
So lets add aprox date or month of stay. This information could be very useful to flyertalk members
Useful? It doesn’t matter, really does it? You’re quoted points, and you pay those points for your room. Whether they get paid $25 or $2500 doesn’t matter to you. I find it interesting to know the amount, but it’s really not useful.
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Old Aug 10, 20, 1:57 am
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How do you find the redemption payment?
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I will not answer this
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Admins would appreciate some guidance on how posters are expected to post their redemption datapoints without knowing how to find them.
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Old Aug 10, 20, 6:07 am
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Being curious about what the property is paid by MR for my points stay, sure. Useful knowledge, not really. As others have already pointed out, what the hotel is reimbursed by Marriott for my points stay, has no impact on the points cost to me. I am quoted a points cost and a cash cost upfront when I make a reservation. I can choose whichever one works better for me. If desired, I can continue to check the prices, cash and points, after my initial booking up until I check-in. If the prices are lower, I can update my reservation to take advantage of it (prepaid stays aside).

Properties are paid on a sliding scale for points stays by Marriott. Once a certain occupancy threshold is crossed, they are paid a % of their ADR rather than the typical much lower rate. I don't know the exact math nor thresholds for the payments. I have occasionally seen what the hotel is reimbursed when my folio at checkout accidentally shows what Marriott is billed. I am not aware of any way to routinely lookup what the hotel is reimbursed.

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Old Aug 10, 20, 10:13 am
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i love this thread....

op - lets start a thread to share certain information....

everyone else - how do we get this information????

op - i will not tell you how to get it....but lets share anyway....

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Old Aug 10, 20, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Centurion View Post
So lets add aprox date or month of stay. This information could be very useful to flyertalk members
How is this useful? You use the points and its not like you can negotiate with the hotel directly for points redemption...
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Old Aug 10, 20, 12:44 pm
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How is this useful? You use the points and its not like you can negotiate with the hotel directly for points redemption...
Perhaps that is the point.
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Old Aug 10, 20, 1:02 pm
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In the old SPG system one could easily find out the answer to the OP’s question. If one initiated a BRG claim against an award booking the system would pull the reservation details (as it always did) and the field “rate on reservation”
would show up populated with the actual rate SPG was paying the hotel, in USD.

I remeber being impressed by how low the rates usually were — something in the order of $40 for a 10k starpoints booking — and also by the fact that (at least in the few times I cared to check) regardless of the hotel, or its brand or location, hotels in the same category were paid exactly the same rate per night.
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Old Aug 10, 20, 1:11 pm
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I can see it being useful for knowing whether a property opens up rooms for award availability or not is correlated to how much they are paid.
But yes, other than the mistake where they bill you for the amount and thus you see how much the award stay costs, I don't know how one would know.
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