[Unconfirmed] rumor : Bonvoy titanium to get more benefits
#31
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If I get a suite at the FI Vernon BC next week, rather than a standard room with a view of the AC unit directly outside my window, then I will know the supposed new benefits are underway.
#32
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#33
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And as @sethMCOflyer observed, even if something is supposed to be provided at some brands -- that something being breakfast -- plenty of properties are either refusing to provide it or providing an inferior breakfast, like a cup of coffee and a piece of bread with some icing on it or with a sugary fruit filling.
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It would dilute RC too much if they did that. Getting to 75 night is not that hard with Marriott credit card elite nights and that meeting elite night hack.
Now being an Ambassador level benefit would make sense and drive spend to Marriott. Better yet give RC Lounge access to Ambassadors. Something like that would change my habits.
Now being an Ambassador level benefit would make sense and drive spend to Marriott. Better yet give RC Lounge access to Ambassadors. Something like that would change my habits.
Getting free alcohol is nice but a bottle of wine waiting for me in my room isn't that important because I can generally expense it. I can't expense room service. I'd rather have a personally written letter from the general manager or maybe some swag at a resort property with the hotel's name on it than a fruit-and-cheese plate or chocolate.
#35
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What substantive changes have been made to the loyalty program terms & conditions since August 18, 2018?
Yes, I realize there have been minor tweaks, such as clearly excluding the Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas from some benefits.
The new program name and the new names for the two top tiers are not substantive changes.
What program features in the terms and conditions — for earning, redemption, and recognition — have been "watered down" since the three programs were combined last August?
Yes, I realize there have been minor tweaks, such as clearly excluding the Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas from some benefits.
The new program name and the new names for the two top tiers are not substantive changes.
What program features in the terms and conditions — for earning, redemption, and recognition — have been "watered down" since the three programs were combined last August?
This is the main one I was thinking of. Do you not considerate it substantive or do you believe it is just a minor tweak?
#36
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I actually think they are guaranteed under the programs terms, if available: "Platinum Elite Members receive a complimentary upgrade to the best available room subject to availability for the entire length of stay at the time of check-in. Complimentary upgrade includes suites ..." I think it was inappropriate for a LC property to ask for $200 to upgrade me to a one bedroom suite when they had some available. That being said, I wasn't surprised as while guaranteed under the terms, they are not guaranteed in practice.
The problem under the SPG program is that everyone was Platinum and this became a Marriott problem post 8/18. I've had dozens of handwritten notes from GM's over the years but none in the 50 stays since 8/18 because everyone is Plat Premier.
I'm cautiously optimistic that the program will improve when the levels are more distinct.
I'm cautiously optimistic that the program will improve when the levels are more distinct.
#37
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I actually think they are guaranteed under the programs terms, if available: "Platinum Elite Members receive a complimentary upgrade to the best available room subject to availability for the entire length of stay at the time of check-in. Complimentary upgrade includes suites ..." I think it was inappropriate for a LC property to ask for $200 to upgrade me to a one bedroom suite when they had some available. That being said, I wasn't surprised as while guaranteed under the terms, they are not guaranteed in practice.
The problem under the SPG program is that everyone was Platinum and this became a Marriott problem post 8/18. I've had dozens of handwritten notes from GM's over the years but none in the 50 stays since 8/18 because everyone is Plat Premier.
I'm cautiously optimistic that the program will improve when the levels are more distinct.
The problem under the SPG program is that everyone was Platinum and this became a Marriott problem post 8/18. I've had dozens of handwritten notes from GM's over the years but none in the 50 stays since 8/18 because everyone is Plat Premier.
I'm cautiously optimistic that the program will improve when the levels are more distinct.
Even more people become PP over the weekend.
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#41
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It's for the SPGs who were granted special dispensation by Arne for having 10 years of spg platness. They are newly minted LTMBVTTs.
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#43
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But, there are a lot of Plat Premiers right now. I suspect those who are in the SPG LTPP sweep, may already be Plat Premiers so I'm assuming the numbers will drop.
#45
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Free breakfast to 50 nighters Platinums is a must nowadays in every elite level (Hilton ecc); removing it at Marriott would be a shame and a loss of customers for sure (firstly me)