EDITION and Design Properties - Breakfast included except for award stays?
Jan 11, 2019, 1:08 pm
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EDITION and Design Properties - Breakfast included except for award stays?
I've noticed a few European Edition & Design hotels that don't have any non breakfast included cash rates for sale, at least the dates I am looking at. Edition Bodrum is one example - there are others. But when you book with Marriott points there is no mention of breakfast and then you get an email from the property letting you know breakfast will be 25+ Euros per person. I know breakfast is excluded as a Platinum benefit at these properties but I find it a bit disingenuous of them to treat award stays in this way, is this against the program rules in any way? The bookings are in summer so its definitely peak period and rates are several hundred Euros a night, so still a good deal, but even as a Premier Platinum I feel like I may be setting up for less than stellar stay.
Jan 11, 2019, 1:50 pm
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Jan 11, 2019, 2:03 pm
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This doesn't have anything to do with Platinum benefits. The issue is the properties treat award stays differently from cash rates - they don't sell a rate not including breakfast. But when you book an award stay - what do you know - no breakfast.
Jan 11, 2019, 2:11 pm
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Breakfast is not a benefit for elites at Edition, Ritz Carlton, or Design Hotels—as specified explicitly in the Marriott terms and conditions. That’s true whether you book an award stay stay or paid stay via Marriott.com. If you book via another 3rd party site or via the Design Hotel’s non-Marriott.com channels, you may find rates that include breakfast but those don’t qualify toward Marriott elite status.
Pick your poison. If that bothers you, stay elsewhere.
Pick your poison. If that bothers you, stay elsewhere.
Jan 11, 2019, 2:20 pm
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Breakfast is not a benefit for elites at Edition, Ritz Carlton, or Design Hotels—as specified explicitly in the Marriott terms and conditions. That’s true whether you book an award stay stay via Marriott.com. If you book via another 3rd party site or via the Design Hotel’s non-Marriott.com channels, you may find rates that include breakfast but those don’t qualify toward Marriott elite status.
Pick your poison.
Pick your poison.
So what I'm saying is if the standard rate includes breakfast - shouldn't award stays? I'm surprised this isn't a program rule.
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Jan 11, 2019, 2:36 pm
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That’s the way it is, as provided for in the terms and conditions for those brands. Again, if you don’t like it, stay elsewhere. Or pay cash. Problem solved.
Jan 11, 2019, 3:08 pm
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Jan 11, 2019, 3:24 pm
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If you read my review in the Bodrum EDITION thread, I had free breakfast there on an award stay back in September. According to T&Cs I was not expecting anything but I was happy to get the traditional Turkish breakfast for free which was great. Other items on the menu were at an extra charge, but this was the same as paying guests.
FWIW, this property is fantastic and whether breakfast is included or not should have no bearing on anybody's decision to stay there or not.
FWIW, this property is fantastic and whether breakfast is included or not should have no bearing on anybody's decision to stay there or not.
Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 pm
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This has nothing to do with elite benefits. If you were to stay at a residence inn that offers free breakfast to all cash paying guests and the residence inn said "sorry, no breakfast for you, you're on an award stay" would you be OK with this? I realize this is brand standard vs hotel standard but if breakfast is included as an amenity for all cash paying guests then excluding award guests is a very slippery slope. I get that the hotel is allowed in the T&Cs to do this, but I agree with the OP that it doesn't feel right. What next? "oh, you're on an award, you have to pay extra for the pool"
Jan 11, 2019, 4:18 pm
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This has nothing to do with elite benefits. If you were to stay at a residence inn that offers free breakfast to all cash paying guests and the residence inn said "sorry, no breakfast for you, you're on an award stay" would you be OK with this? I realize this is brand standard vs hotel standard but if breakfast is included as an amenity for all cash paying guests then excluding award guests is a very slippery slope. I get that the hotel is allowed in the T&Cs to do this, but I agree with the OP that it doesn't feel right. What next? "oh, you're on an award, you have to pay extra for the pool"
Jan 11, 2019, 4:28 pm
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My point is that on the Marriott site you can only book cash rates that include breakfast - for example the Marriott Member rate includes breakfast and every other cash rate as well. (I didn't check corporate codes) But not award stays.
So what I'm saying is if the standard rate includes breakfast - shouldn't award stays? I'm surprised this isn't a program rule.
So what I'm saying is if the standard rate includes breakfast - shouldn't award stays? I'm surprised this isn't a program rule.
Jan 11, 2019, 4:34 pm
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First look at Al Maha Dubai posts and OP make this same case here. I receive your messages more and more arrogant towards others
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Jan 11, 2019, 4:46 pm
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Sounds like it was only a short-term issue, award bookings at Al Maha get breakfast as expected after all. So not getting breakfast at EDITION remains fair although some properties will give it to you regardless of rules.
Jan 11, 2019, 5:37 pm
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Because Marriott declared they had to treat award stays the same as paid. In other words, they stopped the property from the same practice that OP is complaining about.