Are AMEX FHR bookings eligible for MR points/nights?
#121
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Looks like there is definitely confusion out there within Bonvoy - I did a 2 night stay at the Ritz Carlton in Rancho Mirage last week, and only got 1250 points credited for a ~$1k bill, I'd booked via the phone with Centurion for FHR, with a non-prepaid rate. When I've followed up with Bonvoy to look into it - this is the response I've received:
'I am emailing you in regards to your inquiry of points for your stay with us. The American Express Fine Hotels & Resorts rate is unfortunately not a qualifying rate to receive points for the room. '
Apparently I only earned points for the pieces that were not part of the FHR package.
'I am emailing you in regards to your inquiry of points for your stay with us. The American Express Fine Hotels & Resorts rate is unfortunately not a qualifying rate to receive points for the room. '
Apparently I only earned points for the pieces that were not part of the FHR package.
We would like to help check if this reservation was booked under a qualifying rate and if you were credited correctly. Please provide a copy of your hotel folio to the email address below.
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#122
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Looks like there is definitely confusion out there within Bonvoy - I did a 2 night stay at the Ritz Carlton in Rancho Mirage last week, and only got 1250 points credited for a ~$1k bill, I'd booked via the phone with Centurion for FHR, with a non-prepaid rate. When I've followed up with Bonvoy to look into it - this is the response I've received:
'I am emailing you in regards to your inquiry of points for your stay with us. The American Express Fine Hotels & Resorts rate is unfortunately not a qualifying rate to receive points for the room. '
Apparently I only earned points for the pieces that were not part of the FHR package.
'I am emailing you in regards to your inquiry of points for your stay with us. The American Express Fine Hotels & Resorts rate is unfortunately not a qualifying rate to receive points for the room. '
Apparently I only earned points for the pieces that were not part of the FHR package.
#124
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#125
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I am very happy to confirm that base points, bonus points and Weekend Promo points of Marriott Bonvoy have been correctly posted just one day after check out!
Remember that my reservation was made by Amex The Hotel Collection, paid at the hotel on check out, with Amex Plat and my Bonvoy number was added manually by Amex clerk prior to stay.
Good news!
Remember that my reservation was made by Amex The Hotel Collection, paid at the hotel on check out, with Amex Plat and my Bonvoy number was added manually by Amex clerk prior to stay.
Good news!
#126
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Los Angeles
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I had a recent stay at the Ritz Carlton property booked under the Amex Fine Hotels and Resorts rate. I can confirm that I did not receive any Bonvoy Points for the base room rate. (I did get stay credit and points for my spend on meals and drinks...and even the current 2500 points/stay promotion).
I'll submit a missing points request when the window opens and report back. Fingers crossed!
I'll submit a missing points request when the window opens and report back. Fingers crossed!
#127
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I had a recent stay at the Ritz Carlton property booked under the Amex Fine Hotels and Resorts rate. I can confirm that I did not receive any Bonvoy Points for the base room rate. (I did get stay credit and points for my spend on meals and drinks...and even the current 2500 points/stay promotion).
I'll submit a missing points request when the window opens and report back. Fingers crossed!
I'll submit a missing points request when the window opens and report back. Fingers crossed!
#128
Join Date: Sep 2014
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#129
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Do the points normally credit for you? I usually don’t book FHR but am considering utilizing it more often for guaranteed benefits given the unofficial benefit suspension by Marriott.
#130
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Nights and points always post for me. I never use pay in advance and always make sure my titanium number is applied at check in.
#131
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Los Angeles
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1) First, I did not read this thread in full before booking and staying (i know, I know, its my own fault)
2) Previously, if you logged into your Amex Platinum account online, you could navigate to "Travel Benefits > Fine Hotel and Resorts", you will be taken to a unique website (can't recall the URL) where you could only search for and book FHR properties. In the past when I did this, I always got full stay and points credit. Per a response up-thread, clicking through from your account page now redirects you to amextravel.com. And you will not receive points when booked through amextravel.com.
3) It appears if you call Platinum Travel Services to book the FHR reservation, you may get full points for the room rate - I can't confirm personally, but maybe others can chime in.
Here's my general beef and observations with the whole situation:
- It really shouldn't be this difficult, and regular travelers shouldn't need to navigate through so much red tape to get a hotel booking and receive their benefits and points.
- I hate calling to book anything and to require I do that is quite backwards...what year are we in? 1995?
- As a Titanium Bonvoy member, I get way more recognition and benefits booking a FHR rate than a Standard rate any all Marriott Properties. (Which in itself speaks to the state of the Bonvoy program). I love the FHR program, but its frankly getting too difficult to use with Marriott or the other chains.
- I'm going to consider more independent properties or other chains when booking leisure travel through FHR. I don't need status to get the benefits, so why stay loyal?
Last edited by kenying; Sep 22, 2020 at 1:05 pm
#132
Join Date: Aug 2016
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2) Previously, if you logged into your Amex Platinum account online, you could navigate to "Travel Benefits > Fine Hotel and Resorts", you will be taken to a unique website (can't recall the URL) where you could only search for and book FHR properties. In the past when I did this, I always got full stay and points credit. Per a response up-thread, clicking through from your account page now redirects you to amextravel.com. And you will not receive points when booked through amextravel.com.
Appreciate this is different than the message from the lurker above, but clearly others experience are different (including my own from the past weekend).
Last edited by ao40; Sep 22, 2020 at 1:20 pm
#133
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Los Angeles
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I based my observation from the following that was posted by a Marriott representative on this thread:
The following reservation types are not eligible for accrual in the Marriott Bonvoy program
• Reservations made through amextravel.com, travel.americanexpress.com, membershipewards.com, global.americanexpress.com/rewards.
• Reservations made through a tour operator, online travel channel or other third-party channel including, without limitation, expedia.com, hotwire.com, priceline.com, orbitz.com, booking.com, travelocity.com, etc.
• In addition, stays at select properties are never eligible for Marriott Bonvoy accrual even if they are booked through an eligible channel. These include St Regis Residence Club properties, Bulgari Hotels and Resorts, Ritz-Carlton Residences, Ritz-Carlton Reserve properties, and any individual properties listed in section 1.2 of the Marriott Bonvoy Program Terms and Conditions.
• Reservations made through amextravel.com, travel.americanexpress.com, membershipewards.com, global.americanexpress.com/rewards.
• Reservations made through a tour operator, online travel channel or other third-party channel including, without limitation, expedia.com, hotwire.com, priceline.com, orbitz.com, booking.com, travelocity.com, etc.
• In addition, stays at select properties are never eligible for Marriott Bonvoy accrual even if they are booked through an eligible channel. These include St Regis Residence Club properties, Bulgari Hotels and Resorts, Ritz-Carlton Residences, Ritz-Carlton Reserve properties, and any individual properties listed in section 1.2 of the Marriott Bonvoy Program Terms and Conditions.
#134
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Well then...I'm completely confused. I definitely booked the FHR rate (through amextravel.com) and received all of the benefits associated with the FHR rate, including a letter that begins with: "We are pleased to welcome you as a guest of the American Express FINE HOTELS & RESORTS program".
I based my observation from the following that was posted by a Marriott representative on this thread:
I based my observation from the following that was posted by a Marriott representative on this thread: