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Old Dec 19, 2018, 10:39 am
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IF YOU HAVE A PREPAID RATE, PLEASE READ THIS WIKI!
Recommended SNA Best Practices:
  1. According to the Marriott Lurkers in this forum (see post #220 in this thread), as confusing as it sounds, the SNA system is separate from the reservation system, so if a suite is showing as currently unavailable or available on the website, that does not necessarily mean it is currently unavailable or available for SNAs.
  2. As of March 2019, there is an IT bug on Marriott's website that prevents SNAs from being applied to many if not all prepaid reservations. One member has identified a workaround that enables you to "trick" the website into allowing you apply SNAs to prepaid reservation. Several members have reported success using this workaround to apply SNAs to their prepaid reservations. Hopefully Marriott will fix this IT bug in the near future.
  3. After SNAs are redeemed, they are removed from member's account. But they are in pending mode and will only be processed (confirmed or denied) about one week (normally 5 days) prior to actual stay. Any change to the reservation during this pending period may detach the SNAs. Check with reservation agent again to have SNAs re-attached again.
  4. After SNAs get cleared and confirmed, they are locked with the reservation. Any further changes to the reservation may break the confirmed SNAs. It is a hazard to ask agent to process SNAs again since the SNA processing window is closing
  5. If your SNA clears, be sure to take a screen shot of what suite category you are assigned in the app and be prepared to show this to the front desk at check-in. Several members have reported being confirmed in certain suite categories when there SNAs have cleared or during mobile check-in only to be assigned lower a category room at check-in. Members who have taken screenshots of their initial SNA assignments have had success in getting properties to honor those original assignments after initially getting assigned inferior rooms at check-in.
  6. If you are assigned a lower category of room than any of the options offered during the SNA application process and/or if the hotel refuses honor the representations they made at any point during the SNA process, be sure to submit a formal complaint to Marriott and ask for your SNAs used during your stay to be reinstated. If you have followed the screenshot best practice, your screenshot should go a long way towards getting Marriott to eventually refund your SNA, although it may take a long time for customer service to process your request.
Non-Participating Brands:
Not all hotels participate in Suite Night Awards. Suite Night Awards are not redeemable at the following brands (subject to change at any time; see Marriott Bonvoy Terms and Conditions for full details): The Ritz-Carlton®, Protea Hotels®, Aloft®, Element®, Design Hotels™, all-suite hotels, Marriott Executive Apartments®, Marriott Vacation Club®, EDITION®, Ritz-Carlton Reserve®, The Ritz-Carlton Destination Clubs® and Marriott Grand Residence Club properties. In addition, Suite Night Awards are not redeemable at select Participating Properties. Contact Member Support for individual hotel Suite Night Award participation.

From post # 220.

The system is not checking what is available for sale at any marriott.com web site, so you should not be using the web sites as a guide for what is and is not available for SNA approval.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

FOR ANYONE TRYING TO ADD SNAs TO PRE-PAID NONREFUNDABLE BOOKINGS THAT MARRIOTT IT
CURRENTLY DOESN’T SEEM TO ALLOW, HERE IS A WORK-AROUND. GOOD LUCK!

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30575978-post541.html

Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
All, I believe that I've found a way of getting around Marriott's IT issue where SNA's cannot be used on advance purchase rates. It takes advantage of another error in the Marriott IT system (go figure) where changes in different windows are not handled properly. It seems to work for me - would be great if someone else can confirm.

For this to work, in addition to a pre-paid reservation where SNAs are disabled you need a rate at a hotel where SNA's are eligible - so go book a bog-standard fully flex rate at your local Westin or whatever which you can cancel later if you don't currently have any flexible rates booked.

Log in to Marriott.com and click on "My Trips" (obviously this won't work for people whose trips are still not showing). Open "View/ Modify" in a new browser window/ tab on the flexible reservation first, and then open "View/ Modify" in the non-refundable reservation in another new window/ tab. Go back to the flexible reservation and click on "Start Upgrade Request" and it should take you to a webpage for the pre-paid reservation where you can finally select your SNAs.

The link for selecting your benefit:
https://choice-benefit.marriott.com/

How to cancel an Award request:

Suite Night Award requests may be canceled until 2 p.m. local hotel time the day before you arrive, as long as the Awards have not already been confirmed for use on a reservation. Once your Awards have been confirmed, you must cancel the entire reservation to receive credit back for all the Awards; however, after 2 p.m. local hotel time the day before you arrive, a reservation cancellation will result in the forfeiture of all Suite Night Awards applied to the entire reservation. This is in addition to any other cancellation fees applicable to the reservation itself.

NOTE: Always detach the SNA before cancelling a reservation. It's the only way to ensure your SNA is returned to your account immediately. Otherwise, you could be waiting hours/days to see your SNA again.

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Old Dec 20, 2018, 6:41 pm
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I have the same - i’ve only once had the option of an SNA on about 20 stays since the merger (to be fair, maybe half were not eligible as Marriott decided not to allow SNA’s on their high end properties). Someone else here has suggested it might be that SNA’s are not available on pre-paid bookings - could this be the case for you?

Silence from Marriott as to whether this is true and if it is whether it is a policy or temporary systems issue.
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by rebyang
I got the email that my SNA request was fulfilled at 2:36pm this afternoon and I screenshot the confirmed suite reservation on the SPG APP of my cellphone. But just now, when I log into my desktop to try to print the confirmation out, my account shows the original queen room (though I edited the room this morning to a deluxe king room with lower rate), my cellphone's app. As I will travel tomorrow with limited internet connection and this reservation is 3 nights stay from this coming Sunday, I'd like to learn others' experience. I am a SPG 75 nights, now the Platinum Premier Elite member of Marriott.
Why did you change the booking? I'm pretty sure that cancels your SNA. You completely changed the room.
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 6:50 pm
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Thanks margarita girl...........as long as I am still on this board I hope you never stray too far! You always have an answer Merry Christmas.
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete


Obviously nobody really knows what the rules are under the new system, but with SPG the system always ensured the best available suite choice was chosen as preference.
Yes, but once it picked an available room, that's all she wrote. There were not more checks to see if a better room opens up later. But then I don't think SNA process deals with waitlisting so cancellations don't restart the search.
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
I have the same - i’ve only once had the option of an SNA on about 20 stays since the merger (to be fair, maybe half were not eligible as Marriott decided not to allow SNA’s on their high end properties). Someone else here has suggested it might be that SNA’s are not available on pre-paid bookings - could this be the case for you?

Silence from Marriott as to whether this is true and if it is whether it is a policy or temporary systems issue.

I had originally booked the Douglas in Vancouver, Canada a few weeks back for a stay on 30-31.Dec. This was on a flexible rate. I then applied an SNA to this booking. Just yesterday, I had a schedule change to my travel plans, so I cancelled this reservation and the SNA went back into my account. I then booked a prepaid rate at the same hotel, but for one day earlier check-in 29-30.Dec. Then wanted to apply the SNA to this new reservation, but did not have that option in "View/Modify" reservations. So, could it been because of the prepaid rate? Maybe...

I then looked at all my other reservations in 2019...from Jan to Jun. These are ALL on flexible rates, but NONE have the option to apply SNAs. These are JW Marriott, Courtyard, Sheraton, and Luxury Collection properties which are not supposed to be excluded from the SNA pool.
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 9:41 pm
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I changed the room before I submitted the SNA request… I know it’s weird but it’ s true that I was not able to apply SNA for the previous reservation on queen room(15 times failed), but after I changed the reservation to king room, I could successfully add SNA request. The hotel is Le Westin Tremblant. Last year, my reservation at that hotel was upgraded to a suite automatically without using SNA by an email, but when checked in, the suite was sold out so I got 20000points
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 2:34 am
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Originally Posted by rebyang
I got the email that my SNA request was fulfilled at 2:36pm this afternoon and I screenshot the confirmed suite reservation on the SPG APP of my cellphone. But just now, when I log into my desktop to try to print the confirmation out, my account shows the original queen room (though I edited the room this morning to a deluxe king room with lower rate), my cellphone's app. As I will travel tomorrow with limited internet connection and this reservation is 3 nights stay from this coming Sunday, I'd like to learn others' experience. I am a SPG 75 nights, now the Platinum Premier Elite member of Marriott.
Former SPG manager here...if you change any part of the reservation after the SNA is granted by the hotel the SNA is canceled. It is part of the T&C of the program. You have to reapply for the SNA and there is no guarantee that it will be approved again.
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 4:38 am
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Originally Posted by hotelboy
Former SPG manager here...if you change any part of the reservation after the SNA is granted by the hotel the SNA is canceled. It is part of the T&C of the program. You have to reapply for the SNA and there is no guarantee that it will be approved again.
I didn’t change the reservation after SNA is fulfilled. So it must the hotel changed my reservation. Will we have any records that who changed the reservation?
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 4:59 am
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Also per the policy of

How to cancel an Award request:

Suite Night Award requests may be canceled until 2 p.m. local hotel time the day before you arrive, as long as the Awards have not already been confirmed for use on a reservation. Once your Awards have been confirmed, you must cancel the entire reservation to receive credit back for all the Awards; however, after 2 p.m. local hotel time the day before you arrive, a reservation cancellation will result in the forfeiture of all Suite Night Awards applied to the entire reservation. This is in addition to any other cancellation penalties applicable to the reservation itself.
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So why my reservation is still in my account if the SNA is cancelled. Very strange for my case and will call Marriott today to understand
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 7:51 am
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Just called Marriott and Marriott contacted the hotel to confirm the internal system shows the suite for my reservation. Still don't know why my account doesn't show the suite and Marriot doesn't know why.
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by rebyang
Just called Marriott and Marriott contacted the hotel to confirm the internal system shows the suite for my reservation. Still don't know why my account doesn't show the suite and Marriot doesn't know why.
Marriott IT?
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl


You have until Jan 14 to make your selection.
If I make the selection after 1/1/19 but before 1/14/19, when do the SNAs expire? Is it 12/31/19 or 12/31/20? And what if I select the free night worth up to 40K points instead? Would that expire on 12/31/19 or 12/31/20?
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by crazyhorse
If I make the selection after 1/1/19 but before 1/14/19, when do the SNAs expire? Is it 12/31/19 or 12/31/20? And what if I select the free night worth up to 40K points instead? Would that expire on 12/31/19 or 12/31/20?
Everything expires on Dec 31/19. If you choose Elite nights, they will be applied to 2018 even if you choose them in Jan 2019.
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 12:21 pm
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If I make a booking within the next 3 days will the system let me know prior to me arriving at the hotel if the upgrade cleared?


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Old Dec 21, 2018, 12:32 pm
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Can't apply SNA to Pre-payed booking

Has this always been the case?
I mean, it certainly *is* the case now - and I'm not sure why, though I guess I could rationalize this in some form of 3-dimensional chess kinda way...
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