Booking as an outsider at a MVC
#1
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Booking as an outsider at a MVC
Is there any chance we can get bumped out if enough owners want their place at the same time/last minute?
I was told I don't have to attend any pitches, etc., but I'm skeptical. Will the phone ring every day with an offer?
Any do's or dont's for reserving as a hotel guest? (I know there won't be daily housekeeping, we're fine with that).
And I was pleased to see we will earn 10 Marriott points per dollar!
I was told I don't have to attend any pitches, etc., but I'm skeptical. Will the phone ring every day with an offer?
Any do's or dont's for reserving as a hotel guest? (I know there won't be daily housekeeping, we're fine with that).
And I was pleased to see we will earn 10 Marriott points per dollar!
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Is there any chance we can get bumped out if enough owners want their place at the same time/last minute?
I was told I don't have to attend any pitches, etc., but I'm skeptical. Will the phone ring every day with an offer?
Any do's or dont's for reserving as a hotel guest? (I know there won't be daily housekeeping, we're fine with that).
And I was pleased to see we will earn 10 Marriott points per dollar!
I was told I don't have to attend any pitches, etc., but I'm skeptical. Will the phone ring every day with an offer?
Any do's or dont's for reserving as a hotel guest? (I know there won't be daily housekeeping, we're fine with that).
And I was pleased to see we will earn 10 Marriott points per dollar!
You do not have to attend any pitches,but if you choose to do so if the offer is lucrative,be firm that you don't intend to purchase and be clear that you need to leave when the required time is up.
If you don't want any sales calls, simply unplug the phone during your visit while you are in the unit.
Every location we have stayed at does offer daily housekeeping,but it is usually basic-replacing towels,toiletries and emptying trash,along with making the beds.
Upgrades are not offered, but as a Plat, they usually honor basic requests like location, floor etc.
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One of the big complaints that pops up online is that owners can't book the dates they want (because they waited too long), but those same dates are available through Marriott.com. What they don't understand is that another owner already used that timeshare inventory.
Yes. And, if you're Platinum, 500 points as the arrival gift. But there are no upgrades. When an MVC resort has view categories, you get exactly the category (and villa size) that you reserved, not an upgrade. That's not because they're mean to Elite guests. It's just that there's a direct correlation between inventory and reservations.
#5
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Marriott Vacation Club reservations through Marriott.com and MVC ownershio reservations use different inventory. When an MVC owner opts for a cruise or Marriott Rewards Points or some other non-timeshare use, the corresponding inventory is transferred to "hotel" inventory, allowing the cost of the non-timeshare use to be recovered.
One of the big complaints that pops up online is that owners can't book the dates they want (because they waited too long), but those same dates are available through Marriott.com. What they don't understand is that another owner already used that timeshare inventory.
If it rings at all, just explain you're not interested, and you don't want any more phone calls.
Reservations through Marriott.com get daily housekeeping.
Yes. And, if you're Platinum, 500 points as the arrival gift. But there are no upgrades. When an MVC resort has view categories, you get exactly the category (and villa size) that you reserved, not an upgrade. That's not because they're mean to Elite guests. It's just that there's a direct correlation between inventory and reservations.
One of the big complaints that pops up online is that owners can't book the dates they want (because they waited too long), but those same dates are available through Marriott.com. What they don't understand is that another owner already used that timeshare inventory.
If it rings at all, just explain you're not interested, and you don't want any more phone calls.
Reservations through Marriott.com get daily housekeeping.
Yes. And, if you're Platinum, 500 points as the arrival gift. But there are no upgrades. When an MVC resort has view categories, you get exactly the category (and villa size) that you reserved, not an upgrade. That's not because they're mean to Elite guests. It's just that there's a direct correlation between inventory and reservations.
#6
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It is very unlikely you would be "upgraded" from a specific "view" or type of room (i.e. studio, 1 bedroom, 2 bedroom, etc.) to a better view or "larger" room. As stated their inventory isn't managed the same way as a hotels (given owners own weeks with specific views) thus they can't just give you a bigger or better view without taking it away from an owner who might have paid many thousands of dollars extra to "own" a week with that view or room size. But within categories, they have some leeway as to which room to give you.
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Greetings - Dirk
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Short of an "extraordinary circumstance" though, you shouldn't have any issues with your reservation. Since MVCI properties aren't run as "hotels", room management is very different. They don't oversell and the only times they can offer a room for "rent" is if an owner gives them their week to rent out. This does assume a sold out property, if a property isn't yet sold out, then MVCI essentially owns the weeks that haven't been sold and they can do whatever they want with those weeks.
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Staying at a Marriott Vacation Club as a regular elite guest
I have zero interest in timeshares.
That said, I am planning some stays in locations where there a Marriott Vacation Clubs that pop up as options on Marriott.com at reasonable rates. I'm wondering what the trade-offs are of booking such a property as a regular guest.
- Will I get regular elite benefits?
- Will I earn points and elite qualifying nights etc. as usual?
- Do these properties typically have the same amenities as a hotel? (front desk, spa, restaurant, club, room service, etc)
- Do the rooms have the same amenities typical of hotels?
That said, I am planning some stays in locations where there a Marriott Vacation Clubs that pop up as options on Marriott.com at reasonable rates. I'm wondering what the trade-offs are of booking such a property as a regular guest.
- Will I get regular elite benefits?
- Will I earn points and elite qualifying nights etc. as usual?
- Do these properties typically have the same amenities as a hotel? (front desk, spa, restaurant, club, room service, etc)
- Do the rooms have the same amenities typical of hotels?
#12
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Here's a relatively recent thread with answers to some of your questions.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...sider-mvc.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...sider-mvc.html
#13
Join Date: Sep 2018
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I've had recent stays at the Grand Chateau in Las Vegas and, I don't know if this is exactly the same thing, but The Westin Desert Willow Villas in Palm Desert. Both properties were very different.
Grand Chateau:
Grand Chateau:
- no verbal mention of a sales pitch, but there was marketing material around the concierge advertising it for some small reward of points (I do not recall)
- Several different floor plan choices for rooms
- Pool bar and lobby bar, but I don't think there was a real full-service restaurant on site
- No spa, no club lounge, but yes to typical hotel amenities like towels, maid service, etc.
- Free valet parking
- 2 pools but neither was very kid-friendly
- Many different activities on every day of the week, some kid-friendly
- No upgrades or benefits other than a $25 credit to use at the hotel - I used mine on breakfast and coffee from the marketplace one morning
- Elite nights and points were received as normal
- Asked if I would attend a sales pitch, but I declined
- Free gift bag, which included a clear Westin tote bag and a couple promotional offers (Shutterfly?)
- Only 3 different room choices - 1) a small 1 bed villa, 2) a large bed villa, 3) a 2 bed villa when 1 and 2 are combined
- Four different pools with free shuttles that loop around the property
- Paid self-parking $15
- No spa, no lounge, but a full service restaurant
- BBQ pits on site
- No upgrades of benefits
- Elite nights and points were received as normal