Originally Posted by Astrophsx
(Post 31456661)
It's probably going to be a little while before there are data points on upgrades as they don't seem to be looking to fill the resort for the first few months. It seems OP is asking how easy an upgrade might be. There are 32 over water villas and 10 of those are base rooms you can book on award. Upgrades would be 9 sunset, 12 duplex, and 1 royal villas.
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Looks like the opening has been delayed to October 15th. They are trying to re-accommodate guests who booked stays between September 15th and October 15th.
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How are they being re-accommodated? Which resort are they being transferred to? Or are they giving them options?
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Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 31484250)
How are they being re-accommodated? Which resort are they being transferred to? Or are they giving them options?
The W Hotel has slightly cheaper transportation and you'd be upgraded to an OWV without having to pay for the cash or point upgrade. So that might be compensation for most, though this is two to four weeks notice which seems a bit last minute. |
Originally Posted by Astrophsx
(Post 31484463)
They are giving an option to cancel for free and return another time with a 20% discount. It appears they are trying to accommodate at the W Hotel with a similar room type. So if you had a OWV at the JW they would be putting you into a OWV at the W Hotel. At this point I'm not sure if they will be providing any further compensation. Might be on a case by case basis. I'm not sure how many people booked the first month of the JW being opened. Reservations were open for about 3-4 weeks before they stopped taking reservations for Sept 15th to November 1st.
The W Hotel has slightly cheaper transportation and you'd be upgraded to an OWV without having to pay for the cash or point upgrade. So that might be compensation for most, though this is two to four weeks notice which seems a bit last minute. |
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31484584)
The W Maldives is one of the best W properties in the entire portfolio and well established as an excellent luxury hotel for many years. I'd put it as a better option than the JW in almost every category. If given the choice to switch to the W Maldives, anyone should be glad to take it IMO. It's a win and significant upgrade--especially when you consider the opening messes with service and F&B that the JW Maldives would have had for the first 6-12 months anyway!
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Originally Posted by Astrophsx
(Post 31482526)
Looks like the opening has been delayed to October 15th. They are trying to re-accommodate guests who booked stays between September 15th and October 15th.
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Originally Posted by Dn10
(Post 31484945)
Fair point on the few months that it will take to get up to speed but can you really compare the two when one hasn’t even opened yet and doesn’t have actual pictures on the website?
If all that matters is hard product to you, I think the Viceroy photos should show plenty of what to expect from the JW. I think you also will discover that the hard product at the renown W Maldives still is as good if not still better than the JW. And the soft product at the W Maldives is known to be extraordinary--perhaps the best that most of us ever hear consistently about any W property worldwide. It isn't even a close call to me. |
Originally Posted by Dn10
(Post 31484945)
Fair point on the few months that it will take to get up to speed but can you really compare the two when one hasn’t even opened yet and doesn’t have actual pictures on the website?
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31485894)
Haha, I think you can.
If all that matters is hard product to you, I think the Viceroy photos should show plenty of what to expect from the JW. I think you also will discover that the hard product at the renown W Maldives still is as good if not still better than the JW. And the soft product at the W Maldives is known to be extraordinary--perhaps the best that most of us ever hear consistently about any W property worldwide. It isn't even a close call to me.
Originally Posted by Dn10
(Post 31484946)
Any word on what has caused the delay?
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 31484250)
How are they being re-accommodated? Which resort are they being transferred to? Or are they giving them options?
W Hotel Maldives - Overwater Villa for the same points that I paid for the JW St. Regis Maldives - Overwater Villa for the same points that I paid for the JW and they'd cover the difference in airfare since there is slight increase per person to get to the St. Regis |
Originally Posted by Astrophsx
(Post 31486228)
I'll have to compare the W and St. Regis more before we decide which to move to. Everything about the W looks fantastic expect the overwater villas look smaller and seems very close to each other. It also seems a bit more affordable as far as free activities and w/ the 35% elite food discount. Not many people have stayed at both the St. Regis and W. Not to sidetrack this convo, but you opinion would be the W over St. Regis in this case?
The options provided to me: W Hotel Maldives - Overwater Villa for the same points that I paid for the JW St. Regis Maldives - Overwater Villa for the same points that I paid for the JW and they'd cover the difference in airfare since there is slight increase per person to get to the St. Regis The only reason to consider the W over the StR is due to someone loving snorkeling and the better quality of marine life at the W reef--since the StR reef is still recovering from its recent construction. I suppose being young and loving a bit more chic/trendy/nightclub feel could also sway one to the W over the StR. Otherwise, a StR is almost certain be better experience than a W. Either way, both the StR and W are supposed to be fabulous--and probably much nicer than the JW even will be. Enjoy your stay! |
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31485894)
Haha, I think you can.
If all that matters is hard product to you, I think the Viceroy photos should show plenty of what to expect from the JW. I think you also will discover that the hard product at the renown W Maldives still is as good if not still better than the JW. And the soft product at the W Maldives is known to be extraordinary--perhaps the best that most of us ever hear consistently about any W property worldwide. It isn't even a close call to me. |
Originally Posted by Dn10
(Post 31486567)
What about the hard product is so much better at the W? JW Viceroy videos looked like they had some room for improvement with some refurbishment, but I'm not seeing anything for the pictures of the W which makes it seem like the best hard product W in the world and one of the best hotels in the Maldives.
The Viceroy-now-JW had a quirky hard product and layout that never was particularly well regarded. I doubt the renovation has changed that much. Generally, I would expect a better product from a W than a JW--because that's most often the case in any location. In this case, the JW will be newly refurbished but the W is just too celebrated to ignore. This is considered one of the best if not perhaps the very best W in the world for a reason. The service is a big part of that, but the hard product is still considered very good even so many years after opening. Certainly, not much is going to change in the first 6-12 months after opening for the JW--the hard product won't be as much an issue as the soft product needing to come up to standard. Yet the hard product is likely to have its issues on reopening, too--some things not quite working the way they're supposed to. I wouldn't recommend that risk when the W is available (let alone the StR!). |
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31486605)
The W is a celebrated hard (and soft) product that people have loved for years. No one talks about it feeling dated even now. There's a reason it's got a 4.8 rating out of 5.0 even on Google. That is saying something.
The Viceroy-now-JW had a quirky hard product and layout that never was particularly well regarded. I doubt the renovation has changed that much. Generally, I would expect a better product from a W than a JW--because that's most often the case in any location. In this case, the JW will be newly refurbished but the W is just too celebrated to ignore. This is considered one of the best if not perhaps the very best W in the world for a reason. The service is a big part of that, but the hard product is still considered very good even so many years after opening. Certainly, not much is going to change in the first 6-12 months after opening for the JW--the hard product won't be as much an issue as the soft product needing to come up to standard. Yet the hard product is likely to have its issues on reopening, too--some things not quite working the way they're supposed to. I wouldn't recommend that risk when the W is available (let alone the StR!). |
Originally Posted by Dn10
(Post 31486838)
What parts of the Viceroy/JW hard product are quirky or bad and what parts of the W are amazing? Generally curious to determine if I should change my reservation or not.
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Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 31486856)
Check the photos and decide for yourself. There’s a reason the W Maldives is top destination. |
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