Canadian SPG American Express
Jan 25, 2019, 3:47 pm
#2221
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: yyj
Programs: Aeorplan E 75, Marriott Rewards Plat
Posts: 101
Thanks Fizzer, hopefully thie AMEX website is updated soon to reflect this.
Jan 25, 2019, 6:07 pm
#2222
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: SkyTeam Elite, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 262
My hope is that it hits by summer. I plan to also do an event for 10 nights, so I want to hit 75 nights total this year for Titanium status. It would help me plan out my stays better if I knew when it was coming.
Jan 25, 2019, 6:38 pm
#2223
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YVR
Posts: 625
Everything I've read on various forums state the 15 nights will be reflected in March (i.e. after the rebranded credit cards hit).
Jan 26, 2019, 1:00 am
#2224
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: SAS Diamond (*G), Marriott Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 424
Hmmm. guess we'll just have to be patient with the 15 nights.
Jan 28, 2019, 6:44 am
#2225
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 612
my points associated with this card normally post to my account like clockwork. this month it is five days late. Anyone else notice this recently?
Jan 28, 2019, 7:22 am
#2226
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
No issues here. Statement closed on Jan 25. Points posted Jan 27.
Jan 29, 2019, 6:54 pm
#2227
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,511
Received the email today from Amex about receiving the new card..............I am still concerned that they are not mentioning the 15 nights whatsoever on the benefits? Why would they choose not to mention it?
Jan 29, 2019, 7:41 pm
#2228
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: AC SE100K, 2MM, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Diamond
Posts: 323
Same here! Very strange they would not mention it at all!
Jan 29, 2019, 8:58 pm
#2229
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YYZ, MNL, WAW
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Lifetime Plat, (now an AC nobody)
Posts: 1,978
Ok, so I reapplied for the SPG card, given the 15 elite nights credit....but outside of that, is there any reason I should even use this card, except when at a Stariott Hotel? 5 points per 1 USD spent at a Starriott hotel, but the earn rate elsewhere isn't anywhere close to the Amex Cobalt card...
For the Amex Cobalt card, I get 6 Starriott points per dollar spent at a restaurant and at a grocery store. (after converting 5 MR to 6 Starriott)
For the Amex Cobalt card, I get 6 Starriott points per dollar spent at a restaurant and at a grocery store. (after converting 5 MR to 6 Starriott)
Jan 31, 2019, 1:15 pm
#2230
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: YOW & YUL
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 41
I got the same email about SPG Amex becoming Bonvoy Amex, but no mention of 15 elite nights credits.
Jan 31, 2019, 3:47 pm
#2231
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: SkyTeam Elite, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 262
Ok, so I reapplied for the SPG card, given the 15 elite nights credit....but outside of that, is there any reason I should even use this card, except when at a Stariott Hotel? 5 points per 1 USD spent at a Starriott hotel, but the earn rate elsewhere isn't anywhere close to the Amex Cobalt card...
For the Amex Cobalt card, I get 6 Starriott points per dollar spent at a restaurant and at a grocery store. (after converting 5 MR to 6 Starriott)
For the Amex Cobalt card, I get 6 Starriott points per dollar spent at a restaurant and at a grocery store. (after converting 5 MR to 6 Starriott)
Pretty much the only place I use my SPG card is with Marriott hotel stays. I had a targeted offer to spend $7500 in 3 months for 8k points. Since I had a few big purchases coming up (summer flights, 2 weeks at Marriott in Feb, 1 week in March, etc.) I put my flights on this card rather than my usual card and I will put the extra 1k or so I need to make that spend on this card as 8000 points is worth about $70 US to me, so worth putting the extra spend on the card.
Jan 31, 2019, 6:38 pm
#2232
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Starwood:Lifetime Platinum, Air Canada:Basic, Asiana:Lifetime Diamond Plus, ANA: Basic
Posts: 980
I submitted a formal complaint to AMEX Canada. The Colbalt card out earns Marriott Bonvoy points on their own specalty catagory. Colbat's eats and drinks catagory earns 6 Bonvoy points per $C 1 spent while this new Bonvy AMEX earns 5 Bonvoy Points per $C1 spent in Marriott hotels. I wrote to corporate that this needs to be fixed - preferably by increasing the bonus points earned on the AMEX Bonvoy card while staying in a Marriott/SPG hotel.
This issue happened once-up-a-time when Aeroplan AMEX cards came out. The AMEX Platinum was earning $1.5 membership reward points per $C 1 spent and thus can convert to 1.5 Aeroplan miles while the Aeroplan AMEX Platinum was earning 1.30 aeroplan miles per $C1 and I wrote to complain. A few months later... They converted all Platinum card members to either accept the new ratio of 1.25 Membership Reward Points per $C1 and allowed to convert to Aeroplan OR (by special request) keep the 1.5 Membership Rewards Points per $C1 spent but cannot convert to Aeroplan. I wonder how many took the 1.5 Membership Rewards per $C1 spent option - they could have transfered to SPG in a tolerable discount. Anyhow, if you complain about fairness of the overall program, they'll fix it but it's a gamble if the fix is better or worse than before.
This issue happened once-up-a-time when Aeroplan AMEX cards came out. The AMEX Platinum was earning $1.5 membership reward points per $C 1 spent and thus can convert to 1.5 Aeroplan miles while the Aeroplan AMEX Platinum was earning 1.30 aeroplan miles per $C1 and I wrote to complain. A few months later... They converted all Platinum card members to either accept the new ratio of 1.25 Membership Reward Points per $C1 and allowed to convert to Aeroplan OR (by special request) keep the 1.5 Membership Rewards Points per $C1 spent but cannot convert to Aeroplan. I wonder how many took the 1.5 Membership Rewards per $C1 spent option - they could have transfered to SPG in a tolerable discount. Anyhow, if you complain about fairness of the overall program, they'll fix it but it's a gamble if the fix is better or worse than before.
Jan 31, 2019, 9:32 pm
#2233
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
(If it was 5 pts/$ on the US card, you would have got 1/4 less points.)
Feb 1, 2019, 6:08 pm
#2234
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Starwood:Lifetime Platinum, Air Canada:Basic, Asiana:Lifetime Diamond Plus, ANA: Basic
Posts: 980
I submitted a formal complaint to AMEX Canada. The Colbalt card out earns Marriott Bonvoy points on their own specalty catagory. Colbat's eats and drinks catagory earns 6 Bonvoy points per $C 1 spent while this new Bonvy AMEX earns 5 Bonvoy Points per $C1 spent in Marriott hotels. I wrote to corporate that this needs to be fixed - preferably by increasing the bonus points earned on the AMEX Bonvoy card while staying in a Marriott/SPG hotel.
This issue happened once-up-a-time when Aeroplan AMEX cards came out. The AMEX Platinum was earning $1.5 membership reward points per $C 1 spent and thus can convert to 1.5 Aeroplan miles while the Aeroplan AMEX Platinum was earning 1.30 aeroplan miles per $C1 and I wrote to complain. A few months later... They converted all Platinum card members to either accept the new ratio of 1.25 Membership Reward Points per $C1 and allowed to convert to Aeroplan OR (by special request) keep the 1.5 Membership Rewards Points per $C1 spent but cannot convert to Aeroplan. I wonder how many took the 1.5 Membership Rewards per $C1 spent option - they could have transfered to SPG in a tolerable discount. Anyhow, if you complain about fairness of the overall program, they'll fix it but it's a gamble if the fix is better or worse than before.
This issue happened once-up-a-time when Aeroplan AMEX cards came out. The AMEX Platinum was earning $1.5 membership reward points per $C 1 spent and thus can convert to 1.5 Aeroplan miles while the Aeroplan AMEX Platinum was earning 1.30 aeroplan miles per $C1 and I wrote to complain. A few months later... They converted all Platinum card members to either accept the new ratio of 1.25 Membership Reward Points per $C1 and allowed to convert to Aeroplan OR (by special request) keep the 1.5 Membership Rewards Points per $C1 spent but cannot convert to Aeroplan. I wonder how many took the 1.5 Membership Rewards per $C1 spent option - they could have transfered to SPG in a tolerable discount. Anyhow, if you complain about fairness of the overall program, they'll fix it but it's a gamble if the fix is better or worse than before.
An update on this. I received a reply today by management. In our conversation, I outlined that the Colbolt AMEX Card would earn 6 Bonvoy Points per $C 1 spent on eats and drinks and that would out-earn the yet-to-be-release Marriott Bonvoy AMEX 5 Bonvoy Points per $C 1 spent in Marriott hotels. Secondly, for catagories of Travel & Transit, the Colbalt would earn 22 Bonvoy points for every $C10 spent while there is no other bonus catagory for Bonvoy AMEX and thus only earn 20 Bonvoy Points for every $c 10 spent... Again, the Colbalt out earns Bonvoy AMEX on the specialty card. Management brought my feedback during meeting and this process would go to marketing department to further impact study before changes may be implemented (or discarded). I am hopeful stuff may happen.
As for what my suggestion was.. I told them to increase normal earning back to 3 Bonvoy points per $C 1 spent and a more generous bonus in flights and hotels catagory. I said if they can't put money in, the other non-as good blunt tool of stopping the bleeding is to block Cobalt from transfering to Marriott Bonvoy. The original intent of blocking Cobalt MR points to Aeroplan was to prevent leak from Aeroplan cards to Colbalt but there was a loophole of Colbalt MR -> SPG/Marriott -> Aeroplan. You close that and there won't be cannabalization of members keeping the Bonvoy AMEX for the free night while making purchases on other cards.
Feb 1, 2019, 6:53 pm
#2235
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 62
An update on this. I received a reply today by management. In our conversation, I outlined that the Colbolt AMEX Card would earn 6 Bonvoy Points per $C 1 spent on eats and drinks and that would out-earn the yet-to-be-release Marriott Bonvoy AMEX 5 Bonvoy Points per $C 1 spent in Marriott hotels. Secondly, for catagories of Travel & Transit, the Colbalt would earn 22 Bonvoy points for every $C10 spent while there is no other bonus catagory for Bonvoy AMEX and thus only earn 20 Bonvoy Points for every $c 10 spent... Again, the Colbalt out earns Bonvoy AMEX on the specialty card. Management brought my feedback during meeting and this process would go to marketing department to further impact study before changes may be implemented (or discarded). I am hopeful stuff may happen.
As for what my suggestion was.. I told them to increase normal earning back to 3 Bonvoy points per $C 1 spent and a more generous bonus in flights and hotels catagory. I said if they can't put money in, the other non-as good blunt tool of stopping the bleeding is to block Cobalt from transfering to Marriott Bonvoy. The original intent of blocking Cobalt MR points to Aeroplan was to prevent leak from Aeroplan cards to Colbalt but there was a loophole of Colbalt MR -> SPG/Marriott -> Aeroplan. You close that and there won't be cannabalization of members keeping the Bonvoy AMEX for the free night while making purchases on other cards.
As for what my suggestion was.. I told them to increase normal earning back to 3 Bonvoy points per $C 1 spent and a more generous bonus in flights and hotels catagory. I said if they can't put money in, the other non-as good blunt tool of stopping the bleeding is to block Cobalt from transfering to Marriott Bonvoy. The original intent of blocking Cobalt MR points to Aeroplan was to prevent leak from Aeroplan cards to Colbalt but there was a loophole of Colbalt MR -> SPG/Marriott -> Aeroplan. You close that and there won't be cannabalization of members keeping the Bonvoy AMEX for the free night while making purchases on other cards.
Basically your argument is that the new Bonvoy card sucks because cobalt is better, and a great way to solve that is to gimp the cobalt. Because there is close to zero chance that they will up the Bonvoy spend to 3 points for $1 on everything right after the launch. All this stuff was studied so much over the last year, long-term contracts were likely signed, and the usually more generous US cards also saw the reduction to 2 points per dollar. It’s not changing. However, quietly removing a transfer partner on cobalt MR points would be easy to do. And you advocate for this? Why?
The mere fact that you made a “complaint” about this in your first post suggest you have some strange agenda here. I cannot comprehend what it is.
Originally Posted by yeunganson
This issue happened once-up-a-time when Aeroplan AMEX cards came out. The AMEX Platinum was earning $1.5 membership reward points per $C 1 spent and thus can convert to 1.5 Aeroplan miles while the Aeroplan AMEX Platinum was earning 1.30 aeroplan miles per $C1 and I wrote to complain. A few months later... They converted all Platinum card members to either accept the new ratio of 1.25 Membership Reward Points per $C1 and allowed to convert to Aeroplan OR (by special request) keep the 1.5 Membership Rewards Points per $C1 spent but cannot convert to Aeroplan. I wonder how many took the 1.5 Membership Rewards per $C1 spent option - they could have transfered to SPG in a tolerable discount. Anyhow, if you complain about fairness of the overall program, they'll fix it but it's a gamble if the fix is better or worse than before.
Here you are bragging about possibly being responsible for substantially reducing the return on the platinum card. Please enlighten us as to why.