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Sep 9, 2010, 12:20 pm
#9963
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
I just sincerely hope no shortshipment ever occur again!
Sep 9, 2010, 1:31 pm
#9964
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
The Saga Continues - the Mint authorized our card AGAIN.
It looks like someone at the Mint indeed has touched the order of the "empty box" - the card used to order this shipment was authorized again I noticed. The card was used to order the coins on Aug 30 and the billing for the $1000 shipped in the 1.10 lb has not posted yet. However, the card just had $1000 more deduction in its available credit that has not been there a day ago.
It looks as if the empty box was refilled with coins but then the Mint system would then generate another billing!
It remains to be seen whether the Mint would bill TWICE with this order. Given it is Citicard, the authorization would remain on the card for 30 days even no billing to match. This is very annoying, not to mention the possibility of duplicate billing by the Mint...
Call me pessimistic. I have the feeling this is going to be a mess to sort out with the Mint. I hope the Mint has good record of order number with each of its billing.
UPDATE:
Citi confirmed the Mint authorized the card a second time in the middle of the night of 09/08 at 3:09AM.
Mint CSR said that at shipment time the billing dept would do a "soft" authorization to make sure everything remained in order and when everything checked out it would then send the billing to the card company - the billing should match with previous authorization as we all know how the process works. She does not understand why the "Soft" authorization does not reverse itself. She notated the order and advised us to fax the CC statement print out with the double billings if it occurs in coming days. She said to still fax in the CC online print out even there is only 1 billing but the credit line remaining being reduced by an extra $1000 because the Mint has the ability to reverse the extra authorization according to her. This is to avoid future issue.
Meanwhile the CSR agreed that it is better NOT to use the same card to order until this matter is resolve. Since there is no any other charges on the card currently other than the $2000 line reduction caused by the Mint authorization associated to one single order, it would make it simpler for the Mint to resolve it by not adding any new orders to it.
The funniest part of conversation is, when I mentioned the very STRANGE way the Mint processed credit on our previous short shipment (it treated the missing shipment as a Return, then processed a refund on the fictitious "Return", re-order the "returned" item on the same order), she said "It is indeed very weird but it is the only way the accounting system can process a refund. You got to remember whom you are dealing with - we dont make things easy..." Both she and I got a good laugh on it.
The reason I do updates on this saga is hopefully if anyone is unlucky in the future to come across any similar issue, he/she can find some helpful information by searching this long-lived thread. I knew I found some posts way back on how to deal with the short shipment and was able to get some helps from the posters. We hope nobody would need to deal with that in future, but if the needs arise, the above info may prove to be helpful.
It looks as if the empty box was refilled with coins but then the Mint system would then generate another billing!
It remains to be seen whether the Mint would bill TWICE with this order. Given it is Citicard, the authorization would remain on the card for 30 days even no billing to match. This is very annoying, not to mention the possibility of duplicate billing by the Mint...
Call me pessimistic. I have the feeling this is going to be a mess to sort out with the Mint. I hope the Mint has good record of order number with each of its billing.
UPDATE:
Citi confirmed the Mint authorized the card a second time in the middle of the night of 09/08 at 3:09AM.
Mint CSR said that at shipment time the billing dept would do a "soft" authorization to make sure everything remained in order and when everything checked out it would then send the billing to the card company - the billing should match with previous authorization as we all know how the process works. She does not understand why the "Soft" authorization does not reverse itself. She notated the order and advised us to fax the CC statement print out with the double billings if it occurs in coming days. She said to still fax in the CC online print out even there is only 1 billing but the credit line remaining being reduced by an extra $1000 because the Mint has the ability to reverse the extra authorization according to her. This is to avoid future issue.
Meanwhile the CSR agreed that it is better NOT to use the same card to order until this matter is resolve. Since there is no any other charges on the card currently other than the $2000 line reduction caused by the Mint authorization associated to one single order, it would make it simpler for the Mint to resolve it by not adding any new orders to it.
The funniest part of conversation is, when I mentioned the very STRANGE way the Mint processed credit on our previous short shipment (it treated the missing shipment as a Return, then processed a refund on the fictitious "Return", re-order the "returned" item on the same order), she said "It is indeed very weird but it is the only way the accounting system can process a refund. You got to remember whom you are dealing with - we dont make things easy..." Both she and I got a good laugh on it.
The reason I do updates on this saga is hopefully if anyone is unlucky in the future to come across any similar issue, he/she can find some helpful information by searching this long-lived thread. I knew I found some posts way back on how to deal with the short shipment and was able to get some helps from the posters. We hope nobody would need to deal with that in future, but if the needs arise, the above info may prove to be helpful.
Last edited by Happy; Sep 9, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Sep 9, 2010, 3:39 pm
#9965
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 43
Probably not the most kosher question, but here goes nothing:
Since the limit is $1,000 every 10 days for each household...
Can I send $1,000 to my house, $1,000 my parents' house up the road, and open a PO box as well for another $1,000 every 10 days? Just for example...
Since the limit is $1,000 every 10 days for each household...
Can I send $1,000 to my house, $1,000 my parents' house up the road, and open a PO box as well for another $1,000 every 10 days? Just for example...
Last edited by COAIR005; Sep 10, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Sep 9, 2010, 3:43 pm
#9966
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Not again - another shipment has only 1/2 of the correct weight!
One order shipped today has only 8.90lb per UPS website. It is again an order in hubby's card / name. What a bummer - he already has the short shipment in June, the "empty box saga" 3 days ago and now another box has only 8.90 lb instead of 19.xx lb.
I have a hunch this would be a true short shipment like the 14.xx lb box in June - 2 small boxes might be missing this time ... We will see if this would be one of the "not uncommon" cases on inaccurate weight as some other posters proclaim. I hope it is the case. Otherwise that would mean the 3rd incident with the Mint in less than 3 months.
I have a hunch this would be a true short shipment like the 14.xx lb box in June - 2 small boxes might be missing this time ... We will see if this would be one of the "not uncommon" cases on inaccurate weight as some other posters proclaim. I hope it is the case. Otherwise that would mean the 3rd incident with the Mint in less than 3 months.
Sep 9, 2010, 4:48 pm
#9967
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 223
It looks like someone at the Mint indeed has touched the order of the "empty box" - the card used to order this shipment was authorized again I noticed. The card was used to order the coins on Aug 30 and the billing for the $1000 shipped in the 1.10 lb has not posted yet. However, the card just had $1000 more deduction in its available credit that has not been there a day ago.
Sep 9, 2010, 6:00 pm
#9968
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
We have 3 orders all arrived on the same morning, 2 with normal weight 1 with the 1.10 lb weight. Only the 1.10 lb weight order has the additional authorization. The packages also went different path - the 2 normal boxes originated from Indianapolis as they almost always did, then they went from Indianapolis to Louisville to final destination city while the 1.10 lb box originated from Louisville almost 12 hours after the initial billing information.
2 more boxes will come tomorrow morning with 1 box has only 1/2 the normal weight at 8.90lb. We will see what transpires tomorrow morning but the Mint is informed about that and order file duly notated by the CSR who has agreed on the weight is abnormal. She proceeded to tell us "there is nothing we can do now but if the shipment is short you will file the CNR by ...." I told her we knew the procedure because we had to go through it less than 3 months ago.
Last edited by Happy; Sep 9, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Sep 9, 2010, 6:06 pm
#9969
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: AA PLT 2MM
Posts: 2,026
1) Used a different credit card within 10 days of purchase on another -- FAIL
2) Wife ordered on her own card within 10 days of my order on my own card -- FAIL
3) Wife ordered on her own card to a slightly different address within 10 days of my order on my own card -- FAIL.
Only success:
4) Can consistently place an order 9 days from previous order, and order goes from 'on hold' to in process the next day or later without cancellation.
Of course over the last 2 years of me participating in this, my experience has been that everything about this deal is always in flux, and thus any information might not even be reliable or relevant even the day after it's posted.
Sep 9, 2010, 7:21 pm
#9971
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 1MM
Posts: 3
It looks like someone at the Mint indeed has touched the order of the "empty box" - the card used to order this shipment was authorized again I noticed. The card was used to order the coins on Aug 30 and the billing for the $1000 shipped in the 1.10 lb has not posted yet. However, the card just had $1000 more deduction in its available credit that has not been there a day ago.
It looks as if the empty box was refilled with coins but then the Mint system would then generate another billing!
It remains to be seen whether the Mint would bill TWICE with this order. Given it is Citicard, the authorization would remain on the card for 30 days even no billing to match. This is very annoying, not to mention the possibility of duplicate billing by the Mint...
Call me pessimistic. I have the feeling this is going to be a mess to sort out with the Mint. I hope the Mint has good record of order number with each of its billing.
UPDATE:
Citi confirmed the Mint authorized the card a second time in the middle of the night of 09/08 at 3:09AM.
Mint CSR said that at shipment time the billing dept would do a "soft" authorization to make sure everything remained in order and when everything checked out it would then send the billing to the card company - the billing should match with previous authorization as we all know how the process works. She does not understand why the "Soft" authorization does not reverse itself. She notated the order and advised us to fax the CC statement print out with the double billings if it occurs in coming days. She said to still fax in the CC online print out even there is only 1 billing but the credit line remaining being reduced by an extra $1000 because the Mint has the ability to reverse the extra authorization according to her. This is to avoid future issue.
Meanwhile the CSR agreed that it is better NOT to use the same card to order until this matter is resolve. Since there is no any other charges on the card currently other than the $2000 line reduction caused by the Mint authorization associated to one single order, it would make it simpler for the Mint to resolve it by not adding any new orders to it.
The funniest part of conversation is, when I mentioned the very STRANGE way the Mint processed credit on our previous short shipment (it treated the missing shipment as a Return, then processed a refund on the fictitious "Return", re-order the "returned" item on the same order), she said "It is indeed very weird but it is the only way the accounting system can process a refund. You got to remember whom you are dealing with - we dont make things easy..." Both she and I got a good laugh on it.
The reason I do updates on this saga is hopefully if anyone is unlucky in the future to come across any similar issue, he/she can find some helpful information by searching this long-lived thread. I knew I found some posts way back on how to deal with the short shipment and was able to get some helps from the posters. We hope nobody would need to deal with that in future, but if the needs arise, the above info may prove to be helpful.
It looks as if the empty box was refilled with coins but then the Mint system would then generate another billing!
It remains to be seen whether the Mint would bill TWICE with this order. Given it is Citicard, the authorization would remain on the card for 30 days even no billing to match. This is very annoying, not to mention the possibility of duplicate billing by the Mint...
Call me pessimistic. I have the feeling this is going to be a mess to sort out with the Mint. I hope the Mint has good record of order number with each of its billing.
UPDATE:
Citi confirmed the Mint authorized the card a second time in the middle of the night of 09/08 at 3:09AM.
Mint CSR said that at shipment time the billing dept would do a "soft" authorization to make sure everything remained in order and when everything checked out it would then send the billing to the card company - the billing should match with previous authorization as we all know how the process works. She does not understand why the "Soft" authorization does not reverse itself. She notated the order and advised us to fax the CC statement print out with the double billings if it occurs in coming days. She said to still fax in the CC online print out even there is only 1 billing but the credit line remaining being reduced by an extra $1000 because the Mint has the ability to reverse the extra authorization according to her. This is to avoid future issue.
Meanwhile the CSR agreed that it is better NOT to use the same card to order until this matter is resolve. Since there is no any other charges on the card currently other than the $2000 line reduction caused by the Mint authorization associated to one single order, it would make it simpler for the Mint to resolve it by not adding any new orders to it.
The funniest part of conversation is, when I mentioned the very STRANGE way the Mint processed credit on our previous short shipment (it treated the missing shipment as a Return, then processed a refund on the fictitious "Return", re-order the "returned" item on the same order), she said "It is indeed very weird but it is the only way the accounting system can process a refund. You got to remember whom you are dealing with - we dont make things easy..." Both she and I got a good laugh on it.
The reason I do updates on this saga is hopefully if anyone is unlucky in the future to come across any similar issue, he/she can find some helpful information by searching this long-lived thread. I knew I found some posts way back on how to deal with the short shipment and was able to get some helps from the posters. We hope nobody would need to deal with that in future, but if the needs arise, the above info may prove to be helpful.
Sep 9, 2010, 8:11 pm
#9974
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,738
Sorry that did come off rude.
Many members have had success receiving several orders at the same address, but it seems that the general theme of this thread is not to share methods that allow this. Instead we must have a general discussion on who is still receiving coins and how to leave $4 tips in coins
Many members have had success receiving several orders at the same address, but it seems that the general theme of this thread is not to share methods that allow this. Instead we must have a general discussion on who is still receiving coins and how to leave $4 tips in coins
Sep 9, 2010, 8:25 pm
#9975
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Midwest
Programs: AA Advantage Platinum, United 1K, Marriott Rewards Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 395