Jan 9, 2018, 7:46 pm
Last edit by: IAD_flyer
This is a new thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.
As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.
DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.
Sep 13 2021 :If WM App is updated with no money services , then use the following for Android phone to get the working version.
https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type...ge=1&s=walmart
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/
This workaround no longer works.
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.
WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.
Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.
Payments: Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.
BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.
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Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.
:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."
"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.
Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.
Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.
Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99
Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days
Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:
BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.
Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.
As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.
Sep 13 2021 :
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/
This workaround no longer works.
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction
BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.
WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.
Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.
Payments: Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.
BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.
:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."
"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.
Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.
Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.
Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99
Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days
Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:
BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.
Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.
Billpay at Walmart (2018 onwards)
Nov 2, 2018, 6:28 pm
#496
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 483
For the second account with passport, we used our same address but different phone number and email address. When you use the account for the first time the CSR will ask for ID and we just used our DL and that worked, even though the account was set up with PP. My iPhone makes it easy to log into either of my accounts.
Update: Don't use your DL because they will type over your passport number.
Update: Don't use your DL because they will type over your passport number.
Last edited by Travelz; Nov 5, 2018 at 5:04 am
Nov 2, 2018, 10:30 pm
#497
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHL (kinda, no airport is really close)
Programs: AA Exp, but not sure for how long. Enterprise Platinum woo-hoo!
Posts: 4,550
I've been having a very different situation.
I can set up BP in the app, but after scanning in the app, it dies on the CSR's side.
However, I can still do BP's using phone number.
Is it possible that the $8K limit is only on app-originated BP's?
I have a very good relationship with the CSR's and they don't mind doing whatever has to be done. But it obviously takes much longer to have then enter the phone number and account number for each transaction, especially since I do as many as 4-5 a day.
I can set up BP in the app, but after scanning in the app, it dies on the CSR's side.
However, I can still do BP's using phone number.
Is it possible that the $8K limit is only on app-originated BP's?
I have a very good relationship with the CSR's and they don't mind doing whatever has to be done. But it obviously takes much longer to have then enter the phone number and account number for each transaction, especially since I do as many as 4-5 a day.
Nov 3, 2018, 5:28 am
#498
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 483
Nov 3, 2018, 10:20 am
#499
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott/SPG Platinum
Posts: 496
I tried to use same DL with different phone number/email....walmart system recognized it was the same person who had reached the $8k limit, so no go.
I opened another walmart account with another phone number/email/passport, when I went to walmart for BP with this passport account, CSM asked for ID, I handed over my DL, he typed some info, I did a trial of BP of $2. I found out later in walmart BP app, my passport info was replaced with my DL info....assuming when walmart CSM typed my DL info into system, my passport info was replaced by DL info. need to find out if this hybrid account can do another $8k, most likely not.
I opened another walmart account with another phone number/email/passport, when I went to walmart for BP with this passport account, CSM asked for ID, I handed over my DL, he typed some info, I did a trial of BP of $2. I found out later in walmart BP app, my passport info was replaced with my DL info....assuming when walmart CSM typed my DL info into system, my passport info was replaced by DL info. need to find out if this hybrid account can do another $8k, most likely not.
Nov 3, 2018, 4:49 pm
#501
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
I tried to use same DL with different phone number/email....walmart system recognized it was the same person who had reached the $8k limit, so no go.
I opened another walmart account with another phone number/email/passport, when I went to walmart for BP with this passport account, CSM asked for ID, I handed over my DL, he typed some info, I did a trial of BP of $2. I found out later in walmart BP app, my passport info was replaced with my DL info....assuming when walmart CSM typed my DL info into system, my passport info was replaced by DL info. need to find out if this hybrid account can do another $8k, most likely not.
I opened another walmart account with another phone number/email/passport, when I went to walmart for BP with this passport account, CSM asked for ID, I handed over my DL, he typed some info, I did a trial of BP of $2. I found out later in walmart BP app, my passport info was replaced with my DL info....assuming when walmart CSM typed my DL info into system, my passport info was replaced by DL info. need to find out if this hybrid account can do another $8k, most likely not.
i know it's hassle to bring passport everywhere, but i would think that is the only sureproof method if you want to appear like two distinct individuals
Nov 3, 2018, 4:55 pm
#502
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 47
a bit confused why if you make the effort to create a second account with diff phone number / email / passport, then wouldnt you handover passport as well as the form of ID while at WM?
i know it's hassle to bring passport everywhere, but i would think that is the only sureproof method if you want to appear like two distinct individuals
i know it's hassle to bring passport everywhere, but i would think that is the only sureproof method if you want to appear like two distinct individuals
Nov 3, 2018, 5:09 pm
#503
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,688
a bit confused why if you make the effort to create a second account with diff phone number / email / passport, then wouldnt you handover passport as well as the form of ID while at WM?
i know it's hassle to bring passport everywhere, but i would think that is the only sureproof method if you want to appear like two distinct individuals
i know it's hassle to bring passport everywhere, but i would think that is the only sureproof method if you want to appear like two distinct individuals
As to those who just made new account(s) using same name/diff address and phone number, I'm not surprised it got flagged as associated with another account that has met the limit. I was able to pay more bills with my pport but have also maxed it out. Next step is to determine when I will be allowed to make payments again. I checked my receipts on the last day I paid with acct#1 and see if I can pay on day 31.
Nov 3, 2018, 5:14 pm
#504
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,688
I have a different experience, paid $2498.xx via app, was asked for ID since this was "first" payment on a new account and I gave my pport. I checked the screenshot of my app receipt and it didn't show ID I presented.
Nov 3, 2018, 5:53 pm
#505
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 483
I looked and my WM account was showing my DL number instead of my passport number and we paid new cc that we did not BP in the past. I was able to change it back to my passport number. I am still not sure if it is 8K per card or per account a month or not.
Nov 3, 2018, 6:15 pm
#506
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott/SPG Platinum
Posts: 496
per account for sure from my experience. 8k is the max for payments+fees. you said you switched back to passport in the app, they might ask.for ID again next time....
Nov 4, 2018, 4:26 pm
#509
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Texas
Programs: All of them
Posts: 4
Sorry, trying to do my homework but haven't found the answer to these 2.
Anyone know what happens when your id expires? I have an out of state id and plan to get an in state id. Wondering if I can maintain 2 accounts this way.
Can WMBP be used to pay a family member's mortgage or does the bill have to be in my name?
Seeing if I can add in an easy 5k/mth to my total
Anyone know what happens when your id expires? I have an out of state id and plan to get an in state id. Wondering if I can maintain 2 accounts this way.
Can WMBP be used to pay a family member's mortgage or does the bill have to be in my name?
Seeing if I can add in an easy 5k/mth to my total
Nov 4, 2018, 8:17 pm
#510
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889