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Old Jan 7, 2016, 8:18 am
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This is the 2016 and onwards Bluebird thread.

The original discussion. The previous 2013- 2014 megathread. The previous 2015 megathread.

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Read the wiki before posting a question.

The most recent huge wave of shutdowns occurred in May 2019.

Most accounts used for MS were shut down on Jan 8, 2016. Another wave of shutdowns occurred on March 4, 2016. Using Bluebird for MS is very likely to lead to account closure. There is no clear pattern as to how to avoid the account shut-downs. Some of the dormant accounts were not shut down.


Check your BB load limits BEFORE asking in this thread about "tender not allowed" or any other errors.

Bluebird website. There's no need to buy a Bluebird kit in-store; sign-up free on the website.

For information on switching from BB to Serve, see the Serve thread wiki.

Bluebird Load Limits:
  • Cash loading: $2,500 ($1,999.99 at Walmart) per card per day; $9,000 per day all BB cards combined; $5,000 total per calendar month each card; $10,000 calendar month and $100,000 per year all BB cards combined for each SSN.
  • Direct Deposit: $100,000 per year
  • Online Debit Card Load* - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Mobile Check Capture by Ingo® Money - $5,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

The cash load limit for a temp card is $1,500 total.

*For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt. If blocked, call Account Protection Services at 1-800-660-2454 to clear it (9am-8pm EST, Mon-Fri).

The day currently resets around midnight Eastern/11pm Central/10pm Mountain/9pm Pacific.

For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy reloads
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement


Loading with debit card at Walmart
Self checkout does not work for loading.

Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of gift cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC again to load with gift cards.

Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.

Please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...bit-cards.html for additional information on using prepaid debit cards.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered .

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.

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Old May 18, 2023, 9:41 am
  #2011  
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Originally Posted by dwatcher
Why not just do Bill pay? No need to mess around with ATMs.
I do pay my utilites with BB, do you mean Bill pay myself with a check? Also do that too.
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Old May 18, 2023, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by bargainhunter3
I do pay my utilites with BB, do you mean Bill pay myself with a check? Also do that too.
Why not use it to pay the CCs that you use to purchase the gcs.
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Old May 22, 2023, 4:00 pm
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Are there any DPs about people that got previously shutdown by serve/BB in 2016 being able to open new accounts after some time?
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Old May 22, 2023, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by D3athrow
Are there any DPs about people that got previously shutdown by serve/BB in 2016 being able to open new accounts after some time?
Able to open the visa version not the Amex version.
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Old May 27, 2023, 4:50 am
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Which Vanilla VGC work at Walmart for loading AmBB? I only see Vanilla flavor VGC at Stop&Shop. Thanks
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Old May 27, 2023, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by kpe
Which Vanilla VGC work at Walmart for loading ...
It must be "serviced by InComm" -- find it in fine print on Vanilla's package.
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Old May 27, 2023, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by MaxVO
It must be "serviced by InComm" -- find it in fine print on Vanilla's package.
Any preference for secure spend Vanilla version? Or they all work the same as long as servicer is Incomm? Thanks
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Old May 27, 2023, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by kpe
Any preference for secure spend Vanilla version? Or they all work the same as long as servicer is Incomm? Thanks
SS had somewhat longer track record in this cycle, so I favor it slightly. But both SS and Vanilla (excluding Bancorp) currently work.
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Old Jun 1, 2023, 1:54 pm
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I have an old BB amex (never shut down) from 2013ish I believe which I haven't used for a while. At some point they reset all the bill pay info. I just tried to add a new bill pay but getting an error "Oops, well this is awkward. Something went wrong. Please try again." I tried in multiple browsers and on mobile. Also called support and they were no help. Anyone experience this?

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Old Jun 2, 2023, 6:37 am
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Originally Posted by dr0832
I have an old BB amex (never shut down) from 2013ish I believe which I haven't used for a while. At some point they reset all the bill pay info. I just tried to add a new bill pay but getting an error "Oops, well this is awkward. Something went wrong. Please try again." I tried in multiple browsers and on mobile. Also called support and they were no help. Anyone experience this?
Yes
I have failed to be able to pay any Amex card with my BB getting the same silly answer. Have no solution to it as well.
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Old Jun 2, 2023, 6:39 am
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Has anyone tested BB Visa at FD yet?
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Old Jun 2, 2023, 7:16 am
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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Originally Posted by OssianBlue
Has anyone tested BB Visa at FD yet?
I have tested loading 500 visa GC to bluebird visa at FD. It works fine no fees. There are reports of cashier does not allows loading with GC but POS allows it.
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Old Jun 2, 2023, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by OssianBlue
Has anyone tested BB Visa at FD yet?
Yeah, but you would need a cashier that willing to let you to use vgc. Every FDs in my area is straight out asking for cash.
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Old Jun 3, 2023, 4:35 am
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Originally Posted by dalvigirish
I have tested loading 500 visa GC to bluebird visa at FD. It works fine no fees. There are reports of cashier does not allows loading with GC but POS allows it.
Is it the same yellow card for the normal Serve/BB?
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Old Jun 4, 2023, 5:17 pm
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kpe
 
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Originally Posted by MaxVO
SS had somewhat longer track record in this cycle, so I favor it slightly. But both SS and Vanilla (excluding Bancorp) currently work.
SS VGC offered by Meta and serviced by Incomm. I checked securespend.com and didn't see a way to register the card to my name like I can for VGC from Staples. Can I make an online insurance payment? Also, how do I set the pin? Or it can be any pin that I use during the first purchase?

Do you really have to wait 24 hours before it can be used? Thanks
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