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dlandz Mar 4, 2015 8:38 pm
I don't care about the copyright date. If this was real, a heck of a lot more than 2 people on flyertalk and other sites would be posting about it

SanDiego_Fred Mar 4, 2015 8:39 pm
Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 24456611)
If the e-mail were real it would violate FINCEN requirements, not to let the client know that a SAR has been filed/why. A real bank, particularly one as large as Amex would not reveal their reporting/closure thresholds.
Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure the terms and conditions allow them to shut it down whenever they want.

But, let's say you are correct. Are you going to go after them? What are you going to say? Hey, let me back in and keep doing what I was doing in clear violations of the T&Cs of the program? Let me know how it turns out.

SanDiego_Fred Mar 4, 2015 8:42 pm
Originally Posted by dlandz (Post 24456621)
I don't care about the copyright date. If this was real, a heck of a lot more than 2 people on flyertalk and other sites would be posting about it
Well, we don't know how many have been shut down, how many of the shutees use Flyer Talk, how many of them would even care to share.

What's the magic number of posts you need in order to be convinced?

donotblink Mar 4, 2015 8:44 pm
Originally Posted by SanDiego_Fred (Post 24456625)
Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure the terms and conditions allow them to shut it down whenever they want.

But, let's say you are correct. Are you going to go after them? What are you going to say? Hey, let me back in and keep doing what I was doing in clear violations of the T&Cs of the program? Let me know how it turns out.
I don't think you understand the crux of my argument. I'm arguing that the e-mail is fake.

SanDiego_Fred Mar 4, 2015 8:47 pm
Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 24456648)
I don't think you understand the crux of my argument. I'm arguing that the e-mail is fake.
I know with 100% certainty that the email is not fake.

LWT3 Mar 4, 2015 8:47 pm
Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 24456611)
If the e-mail were real it would violate FINCEN requirements, not to let the client know that a SAR has been filed/why. A real bank, particularly one as large as Amex would not reveal their reporting/closure thresholds.
This has nothing to do with filing a SAR. There's no indication or reason to believe Amex finds this behavior suspicious or criminal. It's simply behavior that cuts into their profitability.

BeyondtheWrap Mar 4, 2015 8:47 pm
Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 24456611)
If the e-mail were real it would violate FINCEN requirements, not to let the client know that a SAR has been filed/why. A real bank, particularly one as large as Amex would not reveal their reporting/closure thresholds.
I don't see how it would be a violation in this case, since the "e-mail" says nothing about filing a SAR.

dlandz Mar 4, 2015 8:49 pm
Originally Posted by SanDiego_Fred (Post 24456641)
Well, we don't know how many have been shut down, how many of the shutees use Flyer Talk, how many of them would even care to share.

What's the magic number of posts you need in order to be convinced?
If they don't use flyertalk, they use other sites of which would pick up and share. There is no magic number, but there is no rate of flow occurring here

SanDiego_Fred Mar 4, 2015 8:51 pm
Originally Posted by dlandz (Post 24456678)
If they don't use flyertalk, they use other sites of which would pick up and share. There is no magic number, but there is no rate of flow occurring here
It's the first day. I guess time will tell...

roki Mar 4, 2015 8:52 pm
Someone post a screenshot of what it looks like when you try to log in?

rrgg Mar 4, 2015 9:00 pm
Originally Posted by TMM1982 (Post 24455842)
And $999.99 is safer than $999.00
I suggest using prime numbers, $900.23

I don't have RB but always load $200 on Serve... Until last month, all $500 amounts. :-(

Membersince2013 Mar 4, 2015 9:08 pm
Does this mean that the same might happen to Serve too?...

SanDiego_Fred Mar 4, 2015 9:11 pm
I don't think the number matters much from Target/Amex point of view, $900 vs $938.74. They can easily see the uneven numbers add to $5000. But, if I wanted to use my Chase Sapphire card, then I would want the charges to look as legit as possible and not $800, $750, $1000, etc.. Those numbers could very much look like gift cards or cash loads which are not eligible for bonus categories on most cards' T&Cs.

SanDiego_Fred Mar 4, 2015 9:12 pm
Originally Posted by Membersince2013 (Post 24456763)
Does this mean that the same might happen to Serve too?...
I don't use Serve, but I don't see why it would. Hasn't Serve been around for a long time? If it were a bigger issue, wouldn't that have been targeted first?

SanDiego_Fred Mar 4, 2015 9:17 pm
Originally Posted by rrgg (Post 24456728)
I suggest using prime numbers, $900.23

I don't have RB but always load $200 on Serve... Until last month, all $500 amounts. :-(
Or a prime number divided by 3...


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