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Originally Posted by FederalFlyer
(Post 24456366)
The irony of all this is that this new fear of being shut down makes me think I should engage in the exact behavior I know I should be avoiding (i.e., instant draining)!
What you should do is run to Target and start buying stuff. Surely, you need toilet paper, Tide, Ben & Jerry's, notebook paper, school supplies... SOMETHING. Then do it again tomorrow. |
If I were going to code up an algorithm to catch abuse, and I firmly believe a computer is doing a first pass, there are way too many accounts to go through by hand, I would start with two criteria. Flag max loads, $1k/$1k/$500 within a short time, maybe even up to a day. And flag accounts that have loads and drains within a 24 hour (or 48 or 72) window that match in dollar amounts. Further, I would start with tight time frames first. Flag the biggest abusers. Then increase the time window on further passes. I do believe that spending at Target is very beneficial to your account. This is what they want. Granted, I have no proof or insight to the methodology. I am just speculating.
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Originally Posted by SanDiego_Fred
(Post 24456413)
What you should do is run to Target and start buying stuff. Surely, you need toilet paper, Tide, Ben & Jerry's, notebook paper, school supplies... SOMETHING. Then do it again tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by SanDiego_Fred
(Post 24456465)
If I were going to code up an algorithm to catch abuse, and I firmly believe a computer is doing a first pass, there are way too many accounts to go through by hand, I would start with two criteria. Flag max loads, $1k/$1k/$500 within a short time, maybe even up to a day. And flag accounts that have loads and drains within a 24 hour (or 48 or 72) window that match in dollar amounts. Further, I would start with tight time frames first. Flag the biggest abusers. Then increase the time window on further passes. I do believe that spending at Target is very beneficial to your account. This is what they want. Granted, I have no proof or insight to the methodology. I am just speculating.
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The Copyright of communication by REDcard has been recently updated as '2014-15'. OP's email is still showing '2014'... Nice job OP.
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Other new threads that have something to do with a subject already covered in an existing thread get merged. Why isn't this one being merged into the existing Redcard thread? Hmmmm?;)
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Can you imagine the giggles the AMEX/Redbird folks are having reading these posts?
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Originally Posted by Churnman
(Post 24456516)
Other new threads that have something to do with a subject already covered in an existing thread get merged. Why isn't this one being merged into the existing Redcard thread? Hmmmm?;)
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Originally Posted by spgbus
(Post 24456513)
The Copyright of communication by REDcard has been recently updated as '2014-15'. OP's email is still showing '2014'... Nice job OP.
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So was their online access ever suspended? Seems odd that they never reported problems signing in before receiving this letter.
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Originally Posted by OtherDave
(Post 24456510)
Repeated loads of the the same large amount could also be a trigger. Repeated $500, repeated $750, repeated $800, etc. Something to find a pattern. Or maybe as simple as finding people who do >$4500 per month or something.
The easiest first targets are max loaders. They numbers are well defined, published. |
Originally Posted by deant
(Post 24456499)
We had been leaving some money on RedBird and using it for purchases at Target. They have the best prices on soft goods / detergent etc. so it was nice to get the 5% discount. Wish I could figure out why I was targeted for shutdown.
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More than just the amounts of loads though, I think how quickly the money is removed from the account, and how much was spent at Target are more important.
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If the e-mail were real it would violate FINCEN requirements, not to let the client know that a SAR has been filed/why. A real bank, particularly one as large as Amex would not reveal their reporting/closure thresholds.
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I am completely baffled by why anyone is focusing on the copyright date.
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