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xoxx Oct 10, 2014 2:35 pm

Implications of store refusing debit card?
 
Does anyone have any clue what the legal implications are of a store refusing a particular debit card?
Eg, welfare-mart kiosk has not worked with OV GC for months for me at multiple locations. Obviously a block to the particular card. It interests me that bluebird/etc is technically a bank since it is owned by AMEX. They are forced to follow some pretty strict rules that stores are not. It is obvious that this is in violation of the merchant agreement, however are there any potential legal implications for wmt/bluebird for refusal of a particular card that has the word debit on it?

No, don't go mad at welfare-mart and call your congressman, it will only make things worse.

bigugly Oct 10, 2014 2:48 pm

*subscribe*

coolblues Oct 10, 2014 3:25 pm

We initiated a class action last week.. Let me know if you'd be interested in joining.

ericdabbs Oct 10, 2014 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by coolblues (Post 23658352)
We initiated a class action last week.. Let me know if you'd be interested in joining.

seriously?

thehoodedidiot Oct 10, 2014 3:56 pm


Originally Posted by ericdabbs (Post 23658399)
seriously?

Have you not heard? It was started recently and all over the news. Read the relevant newbie threads and their wikis.

It may be too late to join. There is a late fee you can pay, but you cant use debit. Sorry

nwflyboy Oct 10, 2014 4:26 pm

Wait...let me make some popcorn...this should be great to watch!

Nothing more entertaining than watching self-entitled idiots demand that they have a constitutional right to MS (meanwhile violating all the agreements they have signed), claiming that CC merchant agreements requires every store to do whatever the hell an unwanted customer demands. Oh yeah, this is going to really help your cause. Sooooo smart...

Have you called NPR and the Wall Street Journal yet to demand your interview?

Mamibear Oct 10, 2014 5:19 pm

I read on another site that there's a group filing a case in Judge Judy's court. I'm eager to find out what JJ has to say about this "gross injustice" to MSers.

prasha11 Oct 10, 2014 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by xoxx (Post 23658130)
Does anyone have any clue what the legal implications are of a store refusing a particular debit card?
Eg, welfare-mart kiosk has not worked with OV GC for months for me at multiple locations. Obviously a block to the particular card. It interests me that bluebird/etc is technically a bank since it is owned by AMEX. They are forced to follow some pretty strict rules that stores are not. It is obvious that this is in violation of the merchant agreement, however are there any potential legal implications for wmt/bluebird for refusal of a particular card that has the word debit on it?

No, don't go mad at welfare-mart and call your congressman, it will only make things worse.

Recent judgement has changed those merchant agreements, any restrictive clauses by the banks are not valid and merchant is free to run his business on his terms.

MasterCharge Oct 10, 2014 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by nwflyboy (Post 23658571)
Wait...let me make some popcorn...this should be great to watch!

Nothing more entertaining than watching self-entitled idiots demand that they have a constitutional right to MS (meanwhile violating all the agreements they have signed), claiming that CC merchant agreements requires every store to do whatever the hell an unwanted customer demands. Oh yeah, this is going to really help your cause. Sooooo smart...

Have you called NPR and the Wall Street Journal yet to demand your interview?

^

Phanto Oct 10, 2014 11:39 pm

I guess flying under the radar never came to mind?

bigugly Oct 11, 2014 6:11 am

I assume the OP is just trolling, and not being serious.

nwflyboy Oct 11, 2014 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by bigugly (Post 23660336)
I assume the OP is just trolling, and not being serious.

Why do you assume that? I'm sure he was completely serious.

Clueless noobs read the blogs, they see photos of bloggers and their beautiful wives posing in Tahiti, and they think all they have to do is follow their advice and they can fly their own lovely wife in first class to a 5 star resort in French Polynesia for free if only they buy enough Vanilla reloads or Greendot cards. They come here and see people bragging and posting photos of their used cards shrinkwrapped on palettes. They go out and try to follow the circles and arrows.

Some of them get their rent money stuck in Greendot and are shocked, SHOCKED that they are not treated like a highly valued customer (see numerous recent posts). Others throw a tantrum at the register when a Walmart or CVS cashier refuses their demand, claiming they have a constitutional right to buy anything they want with a credit card, they lecture the store manager, they call the corporate HQ, they file a class action lawsuit (see the endless posts).

Lots of that going around these days.

Rommie2k6 Oct 11, 2014 11:10 pm

LOL..... if you start a class action, please let me know which attorney was dumb enough to take it.

Lobachevsky Oct 12, 2014 12:47 am

The sneering that's going on here lately is not helpful. You folks aren't attorneys, aren't specialists in these legal aspects, and should have some humility when you spout your unsupported opinions as fact.

Wal-Mart sells Vanilla-brand debit cards which can be loaded up to $500 each. On the OUTSIDE of the card package is this: "This card may be used in the U. S. and District of Columbia everywhere Visa debit cards are accepted." Wal-Mart accepts Visa debit cards for billpays and money orders. It does not currently accept Vanilla-brand Visa debit cards, although it used to do so.

This seems like a pretty obvious legal violation to me--but I'm no expert either. Feel free to include me in your sneers.

bigugly Oct 12, 2014 5:21 am

Because it will be cheaper for them to stop taking debit cards for BP and MO at all, for one thing. Buying MO at WM for MS would end, because of the risk exposure for the would to too great.


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