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Old Jan 8, 2014, 2:22 pm
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Bonus category spending is now capped at $50k per year for new accounts. For now, this does not apply to existing cardholders, although Amex may continue to close accounts for excessive spend in bonus categories. This card is less viable as an MS instrument. Consider factors that may have led to these closures when sharing personal experiences.

Oct 22, 2014 onwards: Many people getting cancellation email from Amex. As of Dec 13, 2014, shutdown reports continue. Shutdowns appear to be triggered by spending on the card or upon statement closure, but not always

Some who have been shutdown are reporting back that AMEX is declining new non-OBC card applications due to "unsatisfactory relationship". (However, see here for an example where reconsideration was successful.) It is unclear at this time the length/extent of this Adverse Action/Ban.

Others have succeeded in getting new cards, including new OBCs, but consider your relationship with Amex and how much you value that and this card when deciding how to use it.

There might be some impact with other issuers. If AMEX sends you a cancellation it goes on your record as a cancellation by AMEX, not a cancellation by cardholder. While FICO score does not distinguish between closed by issuer and closed by cardholder, on manual review it may raise questions. However, issuers close cards for benign reasons as well (such as non-use) so unless several cards have been closed it probably won't cause a rejection by itself.

So, if you still feel it is worth it:
Application Link: Copy & paste the following link into a incognito window in Chrome or InPrivate Browsing in IE, Private Session in Firefox. There have been reports of people who got the card in the last couple of months getting shut down because of the rush to spend the initial $6,500.

Do NOT post "Link isn't working" until you have tried it incognito/private browsing and it fails there.

Code:
https://www304.americanexpress.com/credit-card/blue-cash/25330


Up to 5% Cash Back at U.S. supermarkets, U.S. gas stations & select U.S. drugstores (Everyday Purchases). Up to 1% Cash Back on other purchases. For your first $6,500¹ spend in a reward year², you will earn 1% on Everyday Purchases³ (5% after 6500), and 0.5% on other purchases (then 1%).

0% intro APR on purchases and balance transfers for 15 months.

Eligible purchases do NOT include fees or interest charges, balance transfers, cash advances, purchases of travelers checks, purchases or reloading of prepaid cards, or purchases of other cash equivalents. Additional terms and restrictions apply. (Presume these T&Cs are standard and that all credit cards state this)

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¹ First '$6,500' is spend on all purchases.

² 'Reward year' is the 12 billing periods in a row beginning with the one in which the anniversary of your Card Account occurs.

³ 'everyday purchases' refers to U.S. supermarkets, U.S. gas stations & select U.S. drugstores, not all purchases.

* Read the fine print for 'gas' purchases! Right from AMEX T&C's:
...Everyday Purchases are: ... $400 or less of gasoline at gas stations located in the U.S. (superstores, supermarkets and warehouse clubs that sell gasoline are not considered gas stations)... A >$400 purchase at a gas station will get 5% for the first $400 and 1% thereafter. E.g., for something, say, $503.95, you would earn $21.04 CB [($400*5%)+(103.95*1%)].

5% kicks in immediately after hitting $6500.(mid-statement). In fact, it will even kick in mid-purchase and a portion of the purchase will credit at the higher rate.

* Reward dollars for the previous statement period show up a day or two after the current statement period closes.

* Most cash back redemptions will be applied to your statement within 2–3 days.

* Helpful post regarding moving CL between cards. Thanks lad2

* How to Visually Distinguish the Three Types of Blue Cash Cards:
Blue Cash (old) has a "<" character to the left of the word CASH
Blue Cash Everyday has a circle to the right of the word CASH, with the "Everyday" wording at the back.
Blue Cash Preferred has the word PREFERRED printed vertically on the extreme left side.

If you get the error message "You cannot be logged in. Please contact the number on the back of your card." when trying to redeem Reward Dollars online, it may be because you have too many closed accounts still showing in your scrolling images of cards. Delete the closed ones, then try to redeem again.
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 4:50 pm
  #3766  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Originally Posted by swintec
I dont know why you keep saying that. A FR is about calculating the risk that you present to the bank. Making 50k a year and charging 100k a month, month after month is a risk to the bank. Whether it is a risk the bank wants to take on you is decided by them during the review with whatever algorithms they use. 1 FR isnt always the end of it. If they snag you again they will want bank statements and the like...that gives them a much bigger picture.
I replied to Phillip's question and his situation and he didn't say his stated income was $50K, don't take it out context
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Mamibear
were you asked to call and was directed to the finance review team? whether or not you called them, you cannot just ignore the request for 4506-T. the consequences of simply ignoring is account closure or if you choose to close the account before they do and re-apply sometime later, I read that people got approved initially but when they tried to activate their cards, the cards were shutdown immediately.

as long as you didn't lie in your application and your stated income is not very far from the actual, you don't have anything to worry about. as to asking for any CLI, I've read people had success on the 61st day after account opened.
you really need to stop talking about things you have no experience with and giving authoritative answers where you pretend like you do. if you're not sure, check your ego and either find the RIGHT answer or don't respond. geesh

plenty of feedback from people in the OP's EXACT situation- all say the same thing: you can just ignore it and not pursue the CLI. it's not a FR. the end.
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 5:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Mamibear
I replied to Phillip's question and his situation and he didn't say his stated income was $50K, don't take it out context
No, you said, and said in several posts over time, that as long as you dont lie about your income you are all set which is simply not the case. The figures I used were random. Substitute any lopsided figures you want.
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 10:31 pm
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Originally Posted by uncommonsensical
you really need to stop talking about things you have no experience with and giving authoritative answers where you pretend like you do. if you're not sure, check your ego and either find the RIGHT answer or don't respond. geesh

plenty of feedback from people in the OP's EXACT situation- all say the same thing: you can just ignore it and not pursue the CLI. it's not a FR. the end.
The information Mamibear posted was wrong, as you said. One can ignore the 4506-T request when it comes as a response to a credit limit increase. You just don't get the CLI. No account closure.

But I don't think Mamibear's response came out of ego. It was a simple mistake on his/her part. We all make mistakes on this game and I've yet to find someone who post correct info 100% of the time. That's why we have the forum, to find the right answer collectively.
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Old Oct 14, 2014, 6:19 am
  #3770  
 
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Originally Posted by andres17
The information Mamibear posted was wrong, as you said. One can ignore the 4506-T request when it comes as a response to a credit limit increase. You just don't get the CLI. No account closure.

But I don't think Mamibear's response came out of ego. It was a simple mistake on his/her part. We all make mistakes on this game and I've yet to find someone who post correct info 100% of the time. That's why we have the forum, to find the right answer collectively.
^ This place is best when it is a conversation.
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Old Oct 14, 2014, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by seahawksunite
His advice was spot on, but maybe could have been reworded. If you make 38k, I wonder how much you get in hand and how you are floating money. Then again its none of my business what you do with your life.

If tomorrow all avenues shut down and you are left with 15k of gift cards, we dont want people to not be able to pay their bills and fall into a debt trap. So many times people here post they are stuck with GCs and need the money to pay their rents or mortgages.
Remember that there are avenues to do an emergency liquidation that are quite unlikely (IMHO) to be shut down. But you'll take a hit:
http://thepointsninja.blogspot.com/2...ncy-exits.html
Count me in the "don't overextend" camp.

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Old Oct 14, 2014, 12:57 pm
  #3772  
 
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What about the credit transfer option? I can no longer see that option under Profiles-Manage Credit Limit for all my Amex cards.
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Old Oct 14, 2014, 3:24 pm
  #3773  
 
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Anyone initiate EFT to ole Blue over the weekend?

Have 6 inbound payments unaccounted for and starting to get nervous...
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Old Oct 14, 2014, 3:36 pm
  #3774  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Originally Posted by sybloc
Anyone initiate EFT to ole Blue over the weekend?

Have 6 inbound payments unaccounted for and starting to get nervous...
Yesterday was a banking holiday here in the US (Columbus Day), so most banks (and more importantly for EFT) the federal reserve banks were closed for the holiday. I'd give it one more day before getting nervous.

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Old Oct 14, 2014, 7:30 pm
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[QUOTE=cloudybw;23676446]What about the credit transfer option? I can no longer see that option under Profiles-Manage Credit Limit for all my Amex

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Old Oct 14, 2014, 10:01 pm
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How much are you guys spending a month on your OB to get the 5%?
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 8:07 am
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Originally Posted by kaiotes
How much are you guys spending a month on your OB to get the 5%?
90-100k
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 9:51 am
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Join Date: May 2013
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Originally Posted by kaiotes
How much are you guys spending a month on your OB to get the 5%?
2k
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 10:12 am
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by kaiotes
How much are you guys spending a month on your OB to get the 5%?
$30K, give or take.
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 10:23 am
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Currently between 10 and 20k for me; limited by time (I literally lose money on this when I make runs during working hours!) and depending on how much I'm using my other MS cards.
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