Does anyone Manufacture with zero loss or even profit?
Oct 24, 2013, 3:53 pm
#1
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Does anyone Manufacture with zero loss or even profit?
Seems like all of the MS opportunities have slowly gotten more and more expensive to do. The Bigcrumbs card purchase looks like it will no longer be. While there are still an insane amount of savings to be had, I am curious to know if anyone is still MS without a loss (or even making a profit)?
And i'm not asking you to spill the beans here. Just curious to know if anyone is still capable of doing it.
Edit:
I am looking to find if anyone is still getting value and coming out green after all expenses.
And i'm not asking you to spill the beans here. Just curious to know if anyone is still capable of doing it.
Edit:
I am looking to find if anyone is still getting value and coming out green after all expenses.
Last edited by xoxx; Oct 24, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Oct 24, 2013, 4:05 pm
#2
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 331
I'm guessing you have a different definition of "profit" than most here, but I would imagine that everyone here is manufacturing spend for a profit. Cash back minus card fees and time or individually determined cash value of points/miles minus card fees and time - I think for everyone here, these equations come out positive.
Oct 24, 2013, 4:07 pm
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I'm guessing you have a different definition of "profit" than most here, but I would imagine that everyone here is manufacturing spend for a profit. Cash back minus card fees and time or individually determined cash value of points/miles minus card fees and time - I think for everyone here, these equations come out positive.
Im curious to know if anyone is breaking even after expense of card fees, or any other fees etc.
I am not currently aware of any standing CC offers that would provide enough cash back to alleviate the VR fee.
Oct 24, 2013, 4:14 pm
#5
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What is the point of this question? The (obvious) answer is in the pudding - MS occurs.
Oct 24, 2013, 4:15 pm
#6
Join Date: May 2013
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As others have said, all depends on definition. Can I take out the 1cpp for UR in order to balance out the fee? Sure. Will I? Hell no. I still consider it a 'profitable' game, but thats only because I figure I'll want to take vacations regardless, and prefer to do it on the cheap and in style.
Oct 24, 2013, 4:18 pm
#8
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Si. Several of the tricks in my bag have no costs involved. And old tricks, like getting Chase gift cards on no fee or fee waived cards did as well.
Seems like all of the MS opportunities have slowly gotten more and more expensive to do. The Bigcrumbs card purchase looks like it will no longer be. While there are still an insane amount of savings to be had, I am curious to know if anyone is still MS without a loss (or even making a profit)?
And i'm not asking you to spill the beans here. Just curious to know if anyone is still capable of doing it.
And i'm not asking you to spill the beans here. Just curious to know if anyone is still capable of doing it.
Oct 24, 2013, 4:21 pm
#9
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While I don't necessarily have a method to do this... other than in some small $50 increments that take a long time and are more of a hassle than it's worth. If I DID know of a way to do this for the bigger amounts ($200-500) I would definitely NOT be saying anything on here. That would get shut down so fast... it's one of those things better left unsaid.
Oct 24, 2013, 4:46 pm
#13
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Ok I guess my undergraduate finance major in college has forced me to use words in an uncommon way.
Profit=Realized benefits which exceed costs.
Value= Quality/Price
I know everyone gains Value because a few bucks is nothing compared to the true market cost. Thats a no brainer for everyone here.
I am looking to find if anyone is still getting value and coming out green after all costs.
Profit=Realized benefits which exceed costs.
Value= Quality/Price
I know everyone gains Value because a few bucks is nothing compared to the true market cost. Thats a no brainer for everyone here.
I am looking to find if anyone is still getting value and coming out green after all costs.
Yes, there are ways to generate enough cash to more than offset fees, or to zero out the fees themselves. Trying to get folks to divulge anything beyond the obvious stuff is trying to get blood from the proverbial stone.
Oct 24, 2013, 4:51 pm
#14
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And i'm not asking you to spill the beans here. Just curious to know if anyone is still capable of doing it.
Last edited by xoxx; Oct 25, 2013 at 10:11 am