Originally Posted by tree100 (Post 23065984)

I'm embarrassed by how much time I spent today trying to figure this all out. Curiosity got the best of me though. I hope this helps somebody.
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Originally Posted by Superorb (Post 23061914)

Does this new change only affect Visa GCs? Are MasterCard GCs affected?

Originally Posted by luchex (Post 23066721)

I got a VMC at 3letterstore and went into default credit mode at Kate. All Vanillas ara affected.

Originally Posted by ftomasze (Post 23066764)

Really? OMG. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by mikeyb45 (Post 23066858)

Is there any solid reason to believe this is coming from the Amex/Walmart side rather than the Incomm side? Knowing how Incomm works, it wouldn't surprise me if they had found a way to reject any transaction labelled "Walmart POS Reload" or whatever it happens to be. Or worse yet, maybe they just reject any pin-based debit transactions of $100 or more - has anyone tried swiping a Vanilla card for a larger debit transaction at some other retailer?

Originally Posted by tree100 (Post 23065984)

Another data point, as of we need any more evidence to cry over. I just tried OV's that didn't work last night when I tried $5h, $4h, and $1h loads (this was before I knew to try <$1h). This time I tried $90: error code 96, $99: error code 96, $50: error code 94, nothing worked. But I brought with me a vanilla MC (Cvs sells them for $1 more than OVs). No amount of denominations worked for this card either. However, instead of error code 96 or 94, it consistently gave me error code 14. Not sure what that is all about. I searched FT and found a thread that somebody else got the same strange code and thought maybe the pin wasn't set correctly, so I reset the pin, created a new one by purchasing a drink as a debit, and tried all the denominations again. No luck, error code 14 every time.

From there I went and bought all MC Bancorp cards (ouch, double the fees), and returned to WM where I successfully loaded all that I had left. I'm embarrassed by how much time I spent today trying to figure this all out. Curiosity got the best of me though. I hope this helps somebody.

I almost wish they would have timed this with the demise of the VR, just ripped all the band aids off at once.

Originally Posted by zozeppelin (Post 23066717)

You've managed to accomplish applause and facepalm in the same paragraph. Congratulations on doing your own work, that is commendable. But, if you want you found to continue to work, I suggest you rethink sharing your successful findings.

Originally Posted by angrypenguin (Post 23067479)

Don't know if folks saw this linked from the other WM OV thread, but

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...collapsed.aspx

Interesting, it may actually be a bancorp thing than a WM thing. Would explain the CVS collapse too....

Originally Posted by angrypenguin (Post 23067479)

Don't know if folks saw this linked from the other WM OV thread, but

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...collapsed.aspx

Interesting, it may actually be a bancorp thing than a WM thing. Would explain the CVS collapse too....

Originally Posted by michael_v (Post 23067523)

But Bancorp still works, it is Vanilla that does not.

Originally Posted by ntr91 (Post 23067571)

Vanilla=Incomm=Bancorp.

Originally Posted by mikeyb45 (Post 23066858)

Is there any solid reason to believe this is coming from the Amex/Walmart side rather than the Incomm side? Knowing how Incomm works, it wouldn't surprise me if they had found a way to reject any transaction labelled "Walmart POS Reload" or whatever it happens to be.

Originally Posted by tree100 (Post 23067379)

I couldn't agree with you more. Seeing how fast the greater powers to be killed the "workaround" of <$100 loads my generosity in sharing new information has dwindled. Spending all that time yesterday wasn't completely wasted, I discovered another successful route to MS (not as convenient...although I'm not sure if WM Kate and convenient could ever be used together) which won't be shared here - just in case those powers are reading as well ;)