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nddomer04 Aug 7, 2019 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by 1K Man (Post 31390684)
I'm the OP. Thanks everyone for the great information.

I'm strongly considering subscribing to the PASS. But one thing that bothers me (regarding hotels, not homes) the most and preventing me from jumping in....

Many of the stays are too short. For example, I'm heading to Vancouver in early Sept, and the only inventory I can see are all 2 nights at the Rosewood Georgia (great hotel), but I plan to stay 4 nights. So naturally, I would want to take advantage of my PASS, but that would mean checking out (or extending or changing rooms) after two days. Even if we extend, it's likely that the suite we'd be in has a rack rate of $1.5k per night for two extra nights, so it kind of defeats the purpose of the PASS to have to pay 2 extra nights, because I could probably book a lesser room for 4 nights for less than the cost of the PASS + 2 extra nights in a suite. And I can't think of anything more annoying in breaking up a getaway weekend than having to checkout. And I imagine this will be the case for almost all getaway weekends. You can only partially take advantage of the PASS, and then still have significant out-of-pocket.

I did a similar search for London UK for November (and again Rosewood London showed up, great hotel, stayed there many times) and again it was for 5 nights, instead of the 7 that I'm looking for. Same scenario as above. I'd have to extend a couple nights at ~$2.5k per night.

So I'm thinking two things:
1- When Inspirato negotiates these room rates, the hotels expect that the client will often extend a night or two at full rack rate. It's probably part of the strategy.
2- Inspirato reduces the number of nights available the closer you are to the arrival date... 5 nights if booking 3 months out, 3-4 nights 2 months out, 2 nights 1 month out. This would make sense since they don't want to lose money, they won't leave a 5 night inventory option with just 1 month left, I seriously doubt it. So that means that all "last minute" getaways will typically be 2 or 3 nights max, with no option but to extend.

So bottom line, the true cost comparison for PASS is that you have to factor extended nights, and compare that to booking a "lesser room" without PASS. Granted you may not get the fancy suite, but you are still staying in the same hotel without any of the planning commitments needed with PASS.

Just my thoughts. I would welcome feedback from people actually using PASS.

I'd recommend reaching out to Inspirato and seeing if they can put you in contact with a Passholder who can speak to personal experiences. As an Executive Member & Ambassador, I've fielded countless calls from prospective members wanting to hear about my family's personal experience as opposed to just chatting with an Inspirato sales rep.

nddomer04 Aug 7, 2019 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by Valveking (Post 31390931)
As an Inspirato member, I can only see this Pass deal working for someone is if they are empty nesters and semi retired with the ability to just pack up and go at anytime. I would just like it if Inspirato would stop raising their nightly rates on their properties so precipitously. The club's value proposition has been declining for years. Most of the time, I can easily find cheaper rates at the same properties just doing 5 minutes of internet searching. That is not even factoring in the yearly dues. They do put on great trips. That is for sure.

Totally agree with you in terms of use case, Valveking. The only other group I'd add (just based off some people I know who signed up for Pass) would be families with flexible work/school schedules; parents who work from home and/or homeschool the kids. But the key theme you hit on is flexibility...that's who Pass is for. We're just not there in our life right now, which is why we're more than happy with our exec membership.

The rates have gone up for sure, although we continue to see amazing values at resort residences (Fairmont Kea Lani and Ritz Carlton Grand Cayman are two examples where we continue to save well over 1k per night), but for us, the "value" is secondary to the quality and certainty. We had some less-than-stellar vacation rental experiences before Inspirato, and we just love every bit of the Inspirato experience. And knowing how great everything will be makes the decision to try a new destination all the easier. With just under 30 trips under our belts, we haven't had one that has been even just ok...they've all been phenomenal. And even the few times we've had issues (A/C went out just as our private chef arrived to get set up for a multi-generational birthday celebration at a residence associated with the Ritz Carlton Grand Cayman), Inspirato's on-site team has had those issues resolved extremely quickly. In that case, an engineer was on site with A/C back up an running within an hour.

We also typically do 1 or 2 Jaunt 52 trips per year, and those continue to offer spectacular values.

cruisr Aug 24, 2019 11:20 am

I just received the email about the Pass this am. I am extremely flexible so this is intriguing, I am a bit confused though regarding the pricing. The $2500.00 per month is what the member pays. Does that mean I can reserve a 2 or 3 bedroom home for 7 nights with no additional charges? That is a crazy good deal if true, which is why I think there has to be more to this.

LinLant Aug 24, 2019 12:04 pm

You are only allowed one booking at a time for the $2500 program. You can invite others to join you besides your significant other at an extra $500 fee per month.
There are no extra charges. There are no taxes.
If you want to do more than one booking at a time your membership fee is higher. There is a minimum membership of 6 months, so you will be in for $15,000.
It appears to be a great deal for flexible travelers who could wait until the last minute, see what is available and then go! For someone who wants to book in advance and wants to go to one of their ski properties it might still be a good deal.
Some of the properties are for a weeks stay, some are only for two nights or so.
There is a listing of their available properties on the website. They do also have access to some Virtuoso properties that might be included in the $2500 program. (For the all inclusive properties they will include lodging, but you will pay for meals. I am not sure about activities.)
I was intrigued, but opted not to join. I think it can be a great program for some.

SusanDK Aug 24, 2019 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by cruisr (Post 31452223)
I just received the email about the Pass this am. I am extremely flexible so this is intriguing, I am a bit confused though regarding the pricing. The $2500.00 per month is what the member pays. Does that mean I can reserve a 2 or 3 bedroom home for 7 nights with no additional charges? That is a crazy good deal if true, which is why I think there has to be more to this.

Yes, but you cannot make your next reservation until you have checked out of the existing one. And all available reservations are at least 7 days in future. So at best you could perhaps book two 7-day stays per month if everything aligns (availability, your schedule, etc.). Or possibly 3 shorter stays per month, if you have to wait to check out of one before booking the next which will be at least 7 days later. It still can be a good deal if you are flexible and want to travel a lot to high end properties. Even one 7-day stay a month in some of the properties is worth far more than booking the standard nightly rate.

There is even some future availability of 21+ days at some nice properties, but the closer in it gets, the fewer days you can reserve. So, for example, if you want a long stay, you will have to book a couple of months out and essentially use your $2500 fee for a couple of months toward that trip without taking any earlier trips, since you can only hold one reservation at a time at that rate.

But they have some good options to do that. For example, right now you could book 21 days in Lake Tahoe, or Vail, or Florida beginning mid-October, admittedly not high season for any of those locations. And if you grab one of those reservations now, you are giving up anything else in September. So you'll pay Sep-Oct-Nov for one 21-day reservation and then your next availability will be at least 7 days after you check out of your 21-day stay. As you get closer to that date, the available nights will start to drop.

MSPeconomist Aug 24, 2019 4:37 pm

That 21 day stay in exchange for three months of fees is equivalent to a bit over $300 per night (but without tax, although I would think that tips would be expected depending on the circumstances), which is reasonable off season for a hotel room for two but a good deal for most suites, if that's the comparison.

SusanDK Aug 24, 2019 5:09 pm

The two Tahoe properties available are 3-bedroom, 1800+ sq. ft. luxury properties with occupancy for 6 or 8, fully-equipped kitchens, fireplace, patio/balcony. The Vail properties are similar at 1700+ sq. ft., 2-bedroom. These examples are privately managed by Inspirato, so not part of a hotel, although they do also offer hotel/suites at traditional properties like the Ritz for shorter durations.

Smiley90 Aug 24, 2019 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 31452996)
Yes, but you cannot make your next reservation until you have checked out of the existing one. And all available reservations are at least 7 days in future. So at best you could perhaps book two 7-day stays per month if everything aligns (availability, your schedule, etc.). Or possibly 3 shorter stays per month, if you have to wait to check out of one before booking the next which will be at least 7 days later. It still can be a good deal if you are flexible and want to travel a lot to high end properties. Even one 7-day stay a month in some of the properties is worth far more than booking the standard nightly rate.

There is even some future availability of 21+ days at some nice properties, but the closer in it gets, the fewer days you can reserve. So, for example, if you want a long stay, you will have to book a couple of months out and essentially use your $2500 fee for a couple of months toward that trip without taking any earlier trips, since you can only hold one reservation at a time at that rate.

But they have some good options to do that. For example, right now you could book 21 days in Lake Tahoe, or Vail, or Florida beginning mid-October, admittedly not high season for any of those locations. And if you grab one of those reservations now, you are giving up anything else in September. So you'll pay Sep-Oct-Nov for one 21-day reservation and then your next availability will be at least 7 days after you check out of your 21-day stay. As you get closer to that date, the available nights will start to drop.

I think the way the pass makes the most (financial) sense is with the Unlimited Sharing add-on. Do I see myself monthly going on several 2-3 night trips booked a week in advance? no. Do I see at least one of my friends/family members per month going away for a trip somewhere who could take advantage of a pass in excess of at 3000? for sure.

SusanDK Aug 24, 2019 6:37 pm

Does the sharing add-on still limit to one reservation at a time in total? So you can't actually squeeze more value out of the fee, i.e. a greater number of nights considering the booking restrictions. It only allows you to pace your trips and share them with others, correct?

Smiley90 Aug 24, 2019 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 31453207)
Does the sharing add-on still limit to one reservation at a time in total? So you can't actually squeeze more value out of the fee, i.e. a greater number of nights considering the booking restrictions. It only allows you to pace your trips and share them with others, correct?

That's how I'm reading it, yes.

E.g. if I go on a trip and come back, I might not be able to go on another trip 7 days later (work, etc). My family member/friend however might be wanting to go on a trip just then. Much easier to fill trips every 7+ days if you can share since I'm sure SOMEONE you know would always love to go somewhere at any point in time.

donotblink Sep 27, 2019 1:41 am

I wanted to bump this thread to see if anyone has other experiences that they want to share? Right now they have a promotion where you get one month free when you sign for the six month commitment, but apparently it expires tomorrow. I'm going to Hawaii in about two weeks for a week, but I can't find any rooms that would be available for my entire trip.

SusanDK Sep 27, 2019 3:15 am


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 31568844)
I wanted to bump this thread to see if anyone has other experiences that they want to share? Right now they have a promotion where you get one month free when you sign for the six month commitment, but apparently it expires tomorrow. I'm going to Hawaii in about two weeks for a week, but I can't find any rooms that would be available for my entire trip.

I'm an Inspirato member but have not yet joined Pass although I've been monitoring availability closely and can see a pattern.

As you probably already know, the earliest availability will be seven days in the future (no options to book anything within fewer days than that). Also, the closer in, the shorter the stay. So as you have found, if you are traveling in two weeks, the most you will find is a 2-night or 3-night stay during your one-week trip.

If you search by length of stay, the earliest availability for a 7-night stay is a Maui residence checking in on October 26, so if you join at the $2500 level now (one reservation on the books at a time), you would essentially use two months of fees to snag that reservation. OTOH, the value if you joined Inspirato and booked that stay outright is $9,664, so still could be a good value.

For Oahu, the earliest 7-night stay has a check-in date of November 3; Big Island is November 8 for the earliest 7-night stay. Both of those are hotel partners, not residences.

donotblink Oct 4, 2019 8:28 am


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 31568990)
I'm an Inspirato member but have not yet joined Pass although I've been monitoring availability closely and can see a pattern.

As you probably already know, the earliest availability will be seven days in the future (no options to book anything within fewer days than that). Also, the closer in, the shorter the stay. So as you have found, if you are traveling in two weeks, the most you will find is a 2-night or 3-night stay during your one-week trip.

If you search by length of stay, the earliest availability for a 7-night stay is a Maui residence checking in on October 26, so if you join at the $2500 level now (one reservation on the books at a time), you would essentially use two months of fees to snag that reservation. OTOH, the value if you joined Inspirato and booked that stay outright is $9,664, so still could be a good value.

For Oahu, the earliest 7-night stay has a check-in date of November 3; Big Island is November 8 for the earliest 7-night stay. Both of those are hotel partners, not residences.

Thanks for your thoughts. I ended up joining because with the promotion, I'm effectively paying $2,143 per month as I get a free month with the 6 month commitment.

Initially I only saw 3 night stays in Oahu, but they ended up adding Alohilani Resort Waikiki Beach 10/10-10/14. So I'm going to take an interisland flight to do that. It was $310.25 per night for the same dates + taxes and fees comes out to 1,638.60 for the whole stay if I booked direct. I'm hoping to go beyond breaking even, but I guess we'll have to see what the options are for the next week.

SusanDK Oct 4, 2019 9:31 am


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 31593334)
Thanks for your thoughts. I ended up joining because with the promotion, I'm effectively paying $2,143 per month as I get a free month with the 6 month commitment.

Initially I only saw 3 night stays in Oahu, but they ended up adding Alohilani Resort Waikiki Beach 10/10-10/14. So I'm going to take an interisland flight to do that. It was $310.25 per night for the same dates + taxes and fees comes out to 1,638.60 for the whole stay if I booked direct. I'm hoping to go beyond breaking even, but I guess we'll have to see what the options are for the next week.

Sounds good - congrats! Please post back here and share your experiences. I would be ready to try Pass, but my husband is not yet convinced we'd get enough value from it. It would be great to hear some real world experience with it.

JMR1223 Oct 21, 2019 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 31593540)
Sounds good - congrats! Please post back here and share your experiences. I would be ready to try Pass, but my husband is not yet convinced we'd get enough value from it. It would be great to hear some real world experience with it.

Same, SusanDK! And then upon further review I think he was right (for us, right now). But looking forward to hearing how others use it!


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