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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Jan 26, 23, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
So its no longer downstairs in the B60-62 busgate complex?
It is downstairs still, but had to go up from the B60-62 bus gate complex, then walk a little bit, then back down. And the only way I knew was asking because I could see no interconcourse bus signs in the bus gate complex when I was dropped off from my remote stand. No signage at all until you get down to this "new bus complex".
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Old Jan 26, 23, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Vixit View Post
And this brings me back to one of my earlier questions. Is it possible to walk from Bus arrivals at AEUW (LUX-FRA CRJ) to Terminal 2 (Gate D8) via the C gates (previous recommendation from NewbieRunner was to take the Skytrain landside from T1 I believe).

The FRA airport website tells me it is possible to walk it. I understand I'll have to clear security at some point (preference for just once at D8 though I realise this is unrealistic, so if not then the fastest security queue which would be an option in my case - Business ticket if it makes a difference), and of course I know I need to pass immigration somewhere (again, my preference would be to do this early so I move into non-schengen quickly). The ticket is a morning 6am departure from LUX, 2hr20min layover in FRA, before flying onwards to Muscat with Oman Air at some point between 10-11am (can't remember the exact time). And it's all booked under one ticket.

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Old Jan 27, 23, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisBub View Post
And this brings me back to one of my earlier questions. Is it possible to walk from Bus arrivals at AEUW (LUX-FRA CRJ) to Terminal 2 (Gate D8) via the C gates (previous recommendation from NewbieRunner was to take the Skytrain landside from T1 I believe).

The FRA airport website tells me it is possible to walk it. I understand I'll have to clear security at some point (preference for just once at D8 though I realise this is unrealistic, so if not then the fastest security queue which would be an option in my case - Business ticket if it makes a difference), and of course I know I need to pass immigration somewhere (again, my preference would be to do this early so I move into non-schengen quickly). The ticket is a morning 6am departure from LUX, 2hr20min layover in FRA, before flying onwards to Muscat with Oman Air at some point between 10-11am (can't remember the exact time). And it's all booked under one ticket.

Thanks again
It is possible to walk it, but not via C gates. You have to go landside, unfortunately there is no secure connection between T1 and T2 (unless there happens to be a special shuttle running)
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Old Jan 30, 23, 9:39 am
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Connection from A Gates to C Gates

How would connection work from flight from Zurich (Schengen) that lands in A gates and the other flight departs from C gates to Tampa on Eurowings Discover. Will I have to go through immigration and then security or just security and no immigration. And will I have to go through security more than once if taking airtrain? Thanks for your help.
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Old Jan 30, 23, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by gsilk View Post
How would connection work from flight from Zurich (Schengen) that lands in A gates and the other flight departs from C gates to Tampa on Eurowings Discover. Will I have to go through immigration and then security or just security and no immigration. And will I have to go through security more than once if taking airtrain? Thanks for your help.
There is currently no secure path from A to C.

You can just exit landside from A, walk to C and do both security and passport control there.

Or you can do passport control from A to Z, then take the train to B/C and walk. Or you could if the airtrain was running at this time.
Due to construction work the SkyLine service connecting Terminals 1 and 2 will be suspended between January 23 until probably March 5, 2023.
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Old Jan 30, 23, 10:08 am
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security and immigration (Schengen exit control), not sure which one first in C.

You would only go through security once when using Skytrain, after arriving in C. You arrive in A in the secure zone, but it's not possible to reach C without leaving it.
Note that Skytrain is currently not operating. There might be shuttle busses.
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Old Feb 2, 23, 5:20 am
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How much time would I need to connect on two separate tickets in July? I am flying SQ from JFK>FRA (which is already bought) and then onwards to AMS, probably on LH. I will have checked bags and will need to go landside to baggage claim and then recheck them. Is three hours enough? Or would it be better to have more?

I thought I'd need to be in FRA for a few days, but as it turns out, I don't. I can get the LH flight cheaply on points, so am considering this option. But am not married to it.
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Old Feb 2, 23, 6:28 am
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Originally Posted by northinsouth View Post
How much time would I need to connect on two separate tickets in July? I am flying SQ from JFK>FRA (which is already bought) and then onwards to AMS, probably on LH. I will have checked bags and will need to go landside to baggage claim and then recheck them. Is three hours enough? Or would it be better to have more?

I thought I'd need to be in FRA for a few days, but as it turns out, I don't. I can get the LH flight cheaply on points, so am considering this option. But am not married to it.
I doubt anyone can say for sure.
It very much depends on the weekday and hour. If I were you, I would consider 4h + average delay if I were you. Just to be on the safe side.
Take a look at your flight # history on a flight tracker app, e.g. FlightRadar. Place an educated bet on your average delay. Add this to 4h.
If you have a later connection, go for it.

But again, in ideal conditions, it happened for me to clear everything (exit+check-in+pass) in 1h (e.g. last week, a January [email protected]).
However, Mon or Fri 8-10 AM in July you might need 4h.

Good luck!
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Old Feb 2, 23, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk View Post
Note that Skytrain is currently not operating. There might be shuttle busses.
I was about to mention that, they also removed the indicators to Skytrain. Any idea when it will be back?
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Old Feb 2, 23, 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by northinsouth View Post
How much time would I need to connect on two separate tickets in July? I am flying SQ from JFK>FRA (which is already bought) and then onwards to AMS, probably on LH. I will have checked bags and will need to go landside to baggage claim and then recheck them. Is three hours enough? Or would it be better to have more?
Should be okay. AFAIK the SQ morning arrival from JFK is hardly never late, so there is a very high chance that you will have plenty of time at FRA to check-in and clear security. In case you miss the AMS flight it is not a disaster / it is affordable to buy a new ticket, and even if prohibitively expensive, jump on a train to AMS at FRA.

Anyway, there is no need to buy a FRA-AMS for July now. Most likely you are paying a premium this far out (o/w tickets with LH is also much more expensive than return ticket).
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Old Feb 2, 23, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by st8dm View Post
I doubt anyone can say for sure.
It very much depends on the weekday and hour. If I were you, I would consider 4h + average delay if I were you. Just to be on the safe side.
Take a look at your flight # history on a flight tracker app, e.g. FlightRadar. Place an educated bet on your average delay. Add this to 4h.
If you have a later connection, go for it.

But again, in ideal conditions, it happened for me to clear everything (exit+check-in+pass) in 1h (e.g. last week, a January [email protected]).
However, Mon or Fri 8-10 AM in July you might need 4h.

Good luck!
Originally Posted by SK AAR View Post
Should be okay. AFAIK the SQ morning arrival from JFK is hardly never late, so there is a very high chance that you will have plenty of time at FRA to check-in and clear security. In case you miss the AMS flight it is not a disaster / it is affordable to buy a new ticket, and even if prohibitively expensive, jump on a train to AMS at FRA.

Anyway, there is no need to buy a FRA-AMS for July now. Most likely you are paying a premium this far out (o/w tickets with LH is also much more expensive than return ticket).
Thanks guys! This helps a lot. I'd buy the flight on UA Miles, so the cost is not terrible, and, as you point SK AAR, the miss is not big deal.

The only thing that might be a pain is that neither my wife and I can sleep on planes and we'll be in X on SQ, so I might simply just stay the night in FRA, as she's in her early 60s, me late 40s, so sleep deprivation is harder to recover from. We'll see...

Maybe the airport airside hotel coffin might be a good solution (I did that last year, I kid)
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Old Feb 2, 23, 9:35 am
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Actually, one follow-up question, if I might: if I fly SQ to LH, can I have my luggage interlined to AMS, even if I'm on two separate tickets? Or will I need to clear customs and re-check the luggage?
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Old Feb 2, 23, 9:53 am
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It very much depends on the SQ agents at JFK. It may be a "hit or miss". There is no obligation to do it when on separate tickets, but often /some agents will go the extra mile for you if you ask nicely.
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Originally Posted by northinsouth View Post
How much time would I need to connect on two separate tickets in July? I am flying SQ from JFK>FRA (which is already bought) and then onwards to AMS, probably on LH. I will have checked bags and will need to go landside to baggage claim and then recheck them. Is three hours enough? Or would it be better to have more?

I thought I'd need to be in FRA for a few days, but as it turns out, I don't. I can get the LH flight cheaply on points, so am considering this option. But am not married to it.
Consider also the option of ICE train. Might be more cost effective and somewhat more comfortable.

Originally Posted by st8dm View Post
I was about to mention that, they also removed the indicators to Skytrain. Any idea when it will be back?
Website says probably early March.
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Old Feb 2, 23, 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by northinsouth View Post
Actually, one follow-up question, if I might: if I fly SQ to LH, can I have my luggage interlined to AMS, even if I'm on two separate tickets? Or will I need to clear customs and re-check the luggage?
Should be no problem, i have never been refused through checking of bags on *A & IME, LH & SQ are very good in this regard.
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