Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA]

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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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>dmlh/fra/lh DMLH/FRA/LH/23NOV16 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM LH BUS - --- --- --- 100 LH BR - --- --- 100 100 LH CA - --- --- 100 100 LH CN - --- --- 100 100 LH EG - --- --- 100 100 LH ET - --- --- 100 100 LH IN - --- --- 100 100 LH JP - --- --- 100 100 LH QA - --- --- 100 100 LH SG - --- --- 100 100 LH TH - --- --- 100 100 LH US - --- --- 100 100 LH ZA - --- --- 100 100 LH KJR - 100 100 --- --- LH KWQ - 100 100 --- --- LH QDU - 100 100 --- --- LH QKL - 100 100 --- --- LH QKU - 100 100 --- --- )>m LH ZWS - 100 100 --- --- LH KLT BUS - 100 100 --- --- LH SDA BUS - 100 100 --- --- LH 0400-0799 - --- --- 100 100 LH 7270-7329 - --- --- 100 100 LH 7330-7409 - --- --- --- 100 LH 7330-7409 BR - --- --- 100 --- LH 7270-7329 CN - --- --- 100 100 LH 5706-5769 PL - --- --- 100 --- LH 7330-7353 ZA - --- --- 045 045 LH - TRN 100 100 100 100 LH 5706-5769 PL - SC --- --- --- 100 LH - US --- 100 --- 100 LH - QKL --- --- 100 --- LH - ZWS --- --- 100 --- TRN -LH 100 100 100 100 LH BUS -LH 100 100 100 100 LH SC BUS -LH --- 100 --- 100 LH SC TRN -LH --- 100 --- 100 LH SC TRS -LH --- 100 --- 100 LH 7440-9415 US -LH --- --- 100 100 LH -LH BUS 100 100 100 100 )>m LH 6550-6849 -LH ICE --- --- 200 200 LH 6550-6849 -LH TRN --- --- 200 200 LH XER BUS -LH SC --- --- --- 100 LH -LH SC BUS --- --- 100 100 LH -LH SC TRN --- --- 100 100 LH -LH SC TRS --- --- 100 100 -LH BR --- 100 --- 100 -LH CA --- 100 --- 100 -LH CN --- 100 --- 100 -LH EG --- 100 --- 100 -LH ET --- 100 --- 100 -LH IN --- 100 --- 100 -LH JP --- 100 --- 100 -LH QA --- 100 --- 100 -LH SG --- 100 --- 100 -LH TH --- 100 --- 100 -LH US --- 100 --- 100 -LH ZA --- 100 --- 100 -LH KJR 100 --- 100 --- -LH KWQ 100 --- 100 --- -LH QDU 100 --- 100 --- -LH QKL 100 --- 100 --- )>m -LH QKU 100 --- 100 --- -LH TLV --- 100 --- 100 -LH ZWS 100 --- 100 --- LH -LH TLV --- --- --- 100 -LH KLT BUS 100 --- 100 --- -LH SDA BUS 100 --- 100 --- -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 -LH 6550-6849 --- --- --- 100 -LH 7252-7269 --- 115 --- 115 -LH 7330-7409 --- --- --- 100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 --- 115 --- 115 LH -LH 7440-9415 --- 100 --- 100 LH BUS -LH 6550-6849 --- --- --- 200 LH ICE -LH 6550-6849 --- 200 --- 200 LH TRN -LH 6550-6849 --- 200 --- 200 LH TRN -LH 7440-9415 --- 130 --- --- LH 6550-6849 -LH 6850-6901 --- --- --- 200 LH 0001-3799 BUS -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 0001-3799 ICE -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 0001-3799 TRN -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 0001-3799 TRS -LH 0400-0799 --- 100 --- 100 LH 6850-6901 LUX -LH 6550-6849 --- --- --- 200 )>m LH 6550-6849 LUX -LH 6850-6901 --- --- --- 200 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS --- --- 100 100 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 ICE --- --- 100 100 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN --- --- 100 100 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS --- --- 100 100 1-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 100 2-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 130 SC 1-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 045 SC 2-LH 6010-6299 SC 1 --- --- --- 100 BR -LH 6032-6280 SC 1 --- --- --- 150 EZE -LH 6032-6280 SC 1 --- --- --- 200 -LH 7330-7409 BR --- 100 --- --- -LH 5706-5769 PL --- 100 --- --- SC -LH 5706-5769 PL --- --- --- 100 LH -LH 7440-9415 US --- 100 --- 100 LH TRN -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH QDU -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH QKL -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH ZWS -LH 7440-9415 US --- 130 --- --- LH 6550-6849 -LH 6320-6479 AT --- --- --- 100 LH 0001-3799 SC -LH 0400-0799 SG --- 045 --- 045 LH 0001-3799 SC -LH 0400-0799 US --- 045 --- 045 )>m LH 0001-3799 SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA --- 045 --- 045 LH 0001-3799 SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US --- 100 --- --- LH 0443 -LH 0126 --- --- 050 --- LH 0463 -LH 0270 --- --- --- 055 LH 0741 -LH 0274 --- --- --- 055 LH 0419 -LH 0324 --- --- --- 055 LH 0491 -LH 0392 --- --- --- 050 LH 0691 -LH 0440 --- --- --- 050 LH 0949 -LH 0456 --- --- --- 050 LH 1335 -LH 0470 --- --- --- 055 LH 1235 -LH 0498 --- --- --- 050 LH 1133 -LH 0506 --- --- --- 055 LH 1235 -LH 0542 --- --- --- 045 LH 1219 -LH 0578 --- --- --- 055 LH 0055 -LH 0634 --- 055 --- --- LH 1187 -LH 0634 --- --- --- 055 LH 1339 -LH 0720 --- --- --- 055 LH 0489 -LH 0756 --- --- --- 045 LH 0999 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 050 LH 1099 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 055 LH 0465 -LH 0816 --- --- --- 050 LH 0463 -LH 0836 --- --- --- 055 )>m LH 0999 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 050 LH 1099 -LH 0772 --- --- --- 055 LH 0465 -LH 0816 --- --- --- 050 LH 0463 -LH 0836 --- --- --- 055 LH 0569 -LH 0926 --- --- --- 050 LH 0491 -LH 1444 --- --- --- 045 LH 0489 -LH 1446 --- --- --- 050 LH 0491 -LH 1490 --- --- --- 055 FRA-ZRB FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM - --- --- 400 --- ZRB-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM - --- 400 --- --- ZRB-ZRB FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQPTM-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQPTM HMM HMM HMM HMM - --- 100 100 --- CK ALSO STANDARD CONNECTING TIMES PRECLEARANCE MAY APPLY >
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Old Jun 22, 17, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by pjrubindc View Post
Hi all. Thank you so much for all the work you've put into this thread. I've spent an hour looking at some of the posts in this thread. Please tell me if I have this correct: I am flying next week BOS-FRA-TXL, all on LH. My inbound flight is currently scheduled to land at a Z gate; my outbound departs from an A gate. Assuming things stay that way, am I correct that I simply clear passport control and go directly to my departing gate without going through security again, as I would expect to do at most any other airport?

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Sorry to miss this one, Peter. You are 100% correct.
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Old Jun 22, 17, 9:23 am
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The LH guide service 75€ for upto 5pax and has the advantage of being a real LH employee who has access to the ressources to contact the gate of your next flight and ask them to wait for you My in laws once made a 25 min connection in FRA including immigration and extra US security thanks to the guide service

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Old Jun 22, 17, 11:41 am
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The Skyline train now has a new station at C, opened yesterday.

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Old Jun 22, 17, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by pjrubindc View Post
Hi all. Thank you so much for all the work you've put into this thread. I've spent an hour looking at some of the posts in this thread. Please tell me if I have this correct: I am flying next week BOS-FRA-TXL, all on LH. My inbound flight is currently scheduled to land at a Z gate; my outbound departs from an A gate. Assuming things stay that way, am I correct that I simply clear passport control and go directly to my departing gate without going through security again, as I would expect to do at most any other airport?

Thanks,
Peter


Originally Posted by kirkwoodj View Post
Sorry to miss this one, Peter. You are 100% correct.
Thanks. Might make sense to put this in the sticky, since it is likely a recurring question. Might also be worth spelling out which int'l inbound transfers require security re-checks and which don't.
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Old Jun 23, 17, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
The LH guide service 75 for upto 5pax and has the advantage of being a real LH employee who has access to the ressources to contact the gate of your next flight and ask them to wait for you My in laws once made a 25 min connection in FRA including immigration and extra US security thanks to the guide service

https://www.lufthansa.com/online/por...735816395&l=en
IME, this is money well spent, especially for people who might need a little help in general navigating a transfer, or getting from their flight to anywhere within the FRA complex.
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Old Jun 25, 17, 7:03 am
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IME, this is money well spent, especially for people who might need a little help in general navigating a transfer, or getting from their flight to anywhere within the FRA complex.
What would be the difference between this service and the Gate to Gate service ( https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en...e-service.html) besides cost?

I have a 45 min connection from a non-Schengen to a Schengen flight.
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Old Jun 25, 17, 11:02 am
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MAN-FRA-KIX layover time

I'm currently looking at this MAN-FRA-KIX itinerary.
Business class, all on Lufthansa.
I expect that I will have to go through security at FRA. Will the 1h15m layover give me enough time?
Flights from MAN land at bus gates, and I have previously missed a 1h MAN-FRA-NUE connection at FRA due to unexpected security queues and a very long walk to to the departure gate.

Outbound flight
Wed 14 Mar
09:20 12:05
Manchester (MAN) Frankfurt (FRA)
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Layover in Frankfurt FRA
1h 15m
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13:20 08:30+1
Frankfurt (FRA) Osaka (KIX)
11h 10m
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Old Jun 25, 17, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by mikem004 View Post
I have previously missed a 1h MAN-FRA-NUE connection at FRA due to unexpected security queues and a very long walk to to the departure gate.
This. It all depends on how critical an on time arrival in Osaka is for you - would it matter if you get there a day later? Longer layover - lower risk of misconnect.
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Old Jun 25, 17, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by ParisMoskau View Post
This. It all depends on how critical an on time arrival in Osaka is for you - would it matter if you get there a day later? Longer layover - lower risk of misconnect.
A day late to Osaka would not be acceptable for me.
But I understand that Business class travellers can use fast security lanes at FRA. Maybe that would reduce some of the risk.
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Old Jun 25, 17, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by mikem004 View Post
A day late to Osaka would not be acceptable for me.
If you can't risk a miss, then it doesn't seem like a very good idea to book such a tight connection at FRA.
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Old Jun 25, 17, 11:18 pm
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Had it the other way round in March (HND-FRA-HAM) with a 2h layover. Since FRA-HAM was in C, I'd use 'fast' lane (~10min that day) and from that I'd recommend flying an hour earlier ex MAN, esp. with busgates in the play.
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Old Jun 26, 17, 3:49 am
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Thanks for the replies.
I'm not really happy with a 1h15 connection. Bus gates, the need to go through security, previous experience at FRA, only one flight per day to KIX from FRA if I miss the connection. Also, Business pax usually board an international flight ahead of the majority.
However, LH are happy to sell this connection. They must think it is viable, on a good day.
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Old Jun 26, 17, 4:03 am
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In your situation this would be too tight for my taste. Yes, it is doable if things are running smoothly and in most cases I believe yo can make it. But what if not? Are there other ways do get to KIX.
If you really need to be in KIX on time I would take the earlier MAN flight. If not there are some later connections FRA-KIX on the same day, and from my experience LH will rebook you.
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Old Jun 26, 17, 4:05 am
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It is also worth bearing in mind [in case of significant delay which could compromise your connection] that you might get the ad-hoc transfer arranged by LH i.e. a transfer agent awaiting as soon as you get off your MAN flight and making sure you get to the next gate on-time. Whilst I'd certainly not rely on it while booking a flight, I experienced it myself on a number of occasions and thus not unrealistic at all.

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Old Jun 26, 17, 5:24 am
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When using the Skyline train between B and Z, do you need to go through security pre or post the train ride?
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