Same day changes on LH Z fare?
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Same day changes on LH Z fare?
I've searched and have found various threads on standby options on fares when traveling on LH but haven't found anything really on point when dealing with a Z fare. About a month ago I booked a combination UA/LH z fare for myself for the end of December SFO-FRA-FCO-FRA-SFO.
I then booked a separate reservation for my GF about three weeks later when her schedule freed up and allowed time to accompany me. I was able to get her on 3 of the 4 segments with me, but when I booked her ticket, the connecting flight from FCO to FRA was not available in Z, so I booked a flight leaving 3 hours earlier than mine. Now it looks like there is a z fare open on my FCO-FRA segment. Can I change my GF's reservation to my flight? The fare rules sent to me say "penalty" for changing but are not specific as to opening leg, changing dates, and are not clear whether a change on the originally ticketed day of travel but a marginally later flight would be permitted. Would love any insight from anyone who might have dealt with this specifically on a z fare issued by LH.
I then booked a separate reservation for my GF about three weeks later when her schedule freed up and allowed time to accompany me. I was able to get her on 3 of the 4 segments with me, but when I booked her ticket, the connecting flight from FCO to FRA was not available in Z, so I booked a flight leaving 3 hours earlier than mine. Now it looks like there is a z fare open on my FCO-FRA segment. Can I change my GF's reservation to my flight? The fare rules sent to me say "penalty" for changing but are not specific as to opening leg, changing dates, and are not clear whether a change on the originally ticketed day of travel but a marginally later flight would be permitted. Would love any insight from anyone who might have dealt with this specifically on a z fare issued by LH.
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Just call them. I had z- fares on LH which were refundable and changeable without any fee as long as z is still available. Others are without any of this, others only changes allowed paying a hefty fee. It seems to depend on the country of issuing. Sorry, no exp with US.
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It really depends on the exact Z fare you booked. If you mention the exact fare code, we could help you...
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Thanks everyone for your advice and knowledge. It does appear to be one of these fares. So is it accurate that *any* change -- even same day and itinerary and with the same fare bucket available would require a $400 change? Seems a little much for keeping the same itinerary on the same date, but rules are rules. I guess we'll both head to the airport early on the day of the return and perhaps get a friendly agent who might let us travel together on the earlier flight since the later flight appears to be sold out in coach.
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These days seem to be gone for good. If your ticket is not flexible, you are supposed to pay for changes. LH actually audits this - it will come back to the agent if s/he violates the rules. Status does not matter - and I don't think the "operational need" you're alluding to matters, either, but perhaps others on this board have more insights into this.
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These days seem to be gone for good. If your ticket is not flexible, you are supposed to pay for changes. LH actually audits this - it will come back to the agent if s/he violates the rules. Status does not matter - and I don't think the "operational need" you're alluding to matters, either, but perhaps others on this board have more insights into this.
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Yep- for example, I found two identical SVG-FRA-SVO Z fares of around NOK 12500. One of them is fully flexible and refundable without penalty, the other one has change penalty and is not refundable. I called up to check if it is a mistake as both fares are the same- it seems that even though it costs the same, they have different flexibility.
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If you cannot rebook for free, just try your luck at check-in or the gate. On my last trip in Z, I showed up early at the airport and the checkin agent asked if I wanted to take an earliert flight (for free). I went for it since that gave me some more time in the MUC lounge.
I would hope they'd do the same for you if they still have available seats.
I would hope they'd do the same for you if they still have available seats.